A TE who can really block in this draft. Tommy Tremble

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  • Joel Buchsbaum
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    • Jan 2021
    • 7605

    #16
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    I don’t understand why Ebron is treated like this on here. I had serious doubts about his hands but he played well.

    This idea that our TE to be a Heath Miller clone needs to stop.

    We aren’t getting another Heath, Big Snack or Hines.. let go and let God.

    I agree we need another blocking TE but Ebron is a weapon. No one should care what bad franchises say about players who leave. Ebron could probably right a book about how bad the Detroit FO has been while he was there.

    Do you think Ebron is worth 8.5 million on the cap. He's a weak blocker. For example Ju-ju and Claypool blocked better as receivers. Ebron is part of the reason we had issues running the ball and he dropped too many as a receiver.

    Yeah he's a taller receiver type with some speed that can look good in games. But he's so inconstant, do you really trust him to convert on 3rd down? His catch percent of 61.5 % is on the low side. Averaging 37.2 yards a game as a pass catcher is pretty low relative to how limited he is and how much he's getting compensated.

    Ebron is to be paid 8.5 million on the cap next season. If the Steelers cut him, they get back $6,000,000

    Hmmm....If ony we had a solid #2 TE. Well see if we could find one on the draft, as $6,000,000 could buy a quality free agent, or just save enough cap space.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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    • steeler_george
      Hall of Famer
      • Dec 2008
      • 3417

      #17
      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
      Do you think Ebron is worth 8.5 million on the cap. He's a weak blocker. For example Ju-ju and Claypool blocked better as receivers. Ebron is part of the reason we had issues running the ball and he dropped too many as a receiver.

      Yeah he's a taller receiver type with some speed that can look good in games. But he's so inconstant, do you really trust him to convert on 3rd down? His catch percent of 61.5 % is on the low side. Averaging 37.2 yards a game as a pass catcher is pretty low relative to how limited he is and how much he's getting compensated.

      Ebron is to be paid 8.5 million on the cap next season. If the Steelers cut him, they get back $6,000,000

      Hmmm....If ony we had a solid #2 TE. Well see if we could find one on the draft, as $6,000,000 could buy a quality free agent, or just save enough cap space.
      What is the difference between Ebron ( 6-4, 253) and Claypool ( 6-4 238 )?
      besides 15 pounds! position wise...
      Last edited by steeler_george; 02-05-2021, 03:10 PM.

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27226

        #18
        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
        Do you think Ebron is worth 8.5 million on the cap. He's a weak blocker. For example Ju-ju and Claypool blocked better as receivers. Ebron is part of the reason we had issues running the ball and he dropped too many as a receiver.

        Yeah he's a taller receiver type with some speed that can look good in games. But he's so inconstant, do you really trust him to convert on 3rd down? His catch percent of 61.5 % is on the low side. Averaging 37.2 yards a game as a pass catcher is pretty low relative to how limited he is and how much he's getting compensated.

        Ebron is to be paid 8.5 million on the cap next season. If the Steelers cut him, they get back $6,000,000

        Hmmm....If ony we had a solid #2 TE. Well see if we could find one on the draft, as $6,000,000 could buy a quality free agent, or just save enough cap space.
        Ebron was fine last year. Didn’t he have the game winning TD vs Dallas last year?

        His ypc will improve IF we stop throwing the ball .5 seconds after the snap and let guys get downfield.

        I don’t remember too many drops last year. I think some people are using his past in Detroit against him last year.
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27226

          #19
          Originally posted by steeler_george
          What is the difference between Ebron ( 6-4, 253) and Claypool ( 6-4 238 )?
          besides 15 pounds! position wise...
          The difference is where they line up and who covers them. Its easier to get Ebron on a LB and exploit that matchup.

          I would like to see how Canada uses him before running him out of town
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          • hawaiiansteel
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            • May 2008
            • 35317

            #20
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            Ebron was fine last year. Didn’t he have the game winning TD vs Dallas last year?
            I had the Steelers against the Cowgirls in my Survivor league that game.

            I'll always like Ebron for that play!

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            • whatever
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              • Sep 2019
              • 5789

              #21
              Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
              Do you think Ebron is worth 8.5 million on the cap. He's a weak blocker. For example Ju-ju and Claypool blocked better as receivers. Ebron is part of the reason we had issues running the ball and he dropped too many as a receiver.

              Yeah he's a taller receiver type with some speed that can look good in games. But he's so inconstant, do you really trust him to convert on 3rd down? His catch percent of 61.5 % is on the low side. Averaging 37.2 yards a game as a pass catcher is pretty low relative to how limited he is and how much he's getting compensated.

              Ebron is to be paid 8.5 million on the cap next season. If the Steelers cut him, they get back $6,000,000

              Hmmm....If ony we had a solid #2 TE. Well see if we could find one on the draft, as $6,000,000 could buy a quality free agent, or just save enough cap space.
              Ebron ranks #14th in catches, yards and tds.
              I’m not sure that justifies his pay.
              How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27226

                #22
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                I had the Steelers against the Cowgirls in my Survivor league that game.

                I'll always like Ebron for that play!
                He made it look easy too.

                I had serious doubts about Ebron but I truly believe most of the criticism isn’t based on his play last year. Its his smile after that drop or congratulating Josh Allen after losing to the Bills.

                What people don’t realize is some players are friends or may have the same agent or trained together in the offseason.
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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27226

                  #23
                  Originally posted by whatever
                  Ebron ranks #14th in catches, yards and tds.
                  I’m not sure that justifies his pay.
                  I agree 100% if we plan on running the same 5 yard passing attack next year.

                  This year Ebron was the 15th highest paid TE.

                  Vance was the 12th.
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                  • whatever
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                    • Sep 2019
                    • 5789

                    #24
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    I agree 100% if we plan on running the same 5 yard passing attack next year.

                    This year Ebron was the 15th highest paid TE.

                    Vance was the 12th.
                    Yup, and Vance was a waste of money.
                    How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SteelerMaine83
                      In my mind Tremble should really be player we try to get. According to where the other TEs go before him, it may take our 3rd round pick. That said, he’s a great blocker that would help our running game a lot and has some upside as a receiver. Pair him with Ebron for one year and then let him be the #1.
                      There going to be looking at different ways to get the run game going. And this isn't a bad idea at all.

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                      • Ghost
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                        • May 2008
                        • 6240

                        #26
                        I know this is a TE thread but how about utilizing the Fullback we paid millions a year to help get the running game going.
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                        • feltdizz
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                          • May 2008
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ghost
                          I know this is a TE thread but how about utilizing the Fullback we paid millions a year to help get the running game going.

                          Hopefully Canada uses him more.
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                          • Joel Buchsbaum
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                            • Jan 2021
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by whatever
                            Ebron ranks #14th in catches, yards and tds.
                            I’m not sure that justifies his pay.
                            Where are you seeing this? He's 57th overall in terms of catches, tied for 52nd in touchdowns and 81st in yards. All for a 2021 cap number of 8.5 million and he's awful as a block. If cut, we get back, $6,000,000. Enough to buy a good Offensive lineman who starts in free agency, or extend big Al for a few seasons. In my opinion he's not a good character team guy.

                            https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/receiving.htm
                            Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                            Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                            *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                            • Steel Maniac
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 19472

                              #29
                              Multiple needs on the O-line; multiple needs at linebacker ( depth and quality ) ; upgrading the running back corps and adding a TE who can block all adds up to Colbert needing to trade down twice with the #24 position to stockpile picks to adequately fix the areas of need on this team.

                              But I’m reading that Colbert will wait to see who’s at 24 before pulling a trade back because he’s looking at a certain QB.

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                              • hawaiiansteel
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                                • May 2008
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                                But I’m reading that Colbert will wait to see who’s at 24 before pulling a trade back because he’s looking at a certain QB.
                                got a link?

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