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  • Ernie
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    • Aug 2013
    • 8470

    #31
    The "Rebuild" consists of more than just finding the money to retain key pieces.. it involves upgrading in several areas (as Northcoast has mentioned). With the right pieces (through the draft, free agency, and player development) it doesnt have to be a several year process.. the Dolphins went from "Tanking for Tua" last year... to almost making the playoffs this year with a revamped roster.

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    • NJ-STEELER
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      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #32
      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      The defense is fine. Highsmith showing he can step into Dupree's spot. Get back key players and this defense is again top 5; draft for depth, especially ILB.
      Offense on the other hand needs major work; aging QB, OL that has faded badly in the last two months, TEs that are just OK, RBs that are just OK, WRs that lack consistency (except for the one that will likely be leaving)... who's left?
      i know.
      this has to be an offensive heavy draft. OL and RB in first 3 rounds

      a wr core of chase, DJ, washington to start isn't exactly bad.

      a better line/running game will make the passing game more effective

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      • NJ-STEELER
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        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #33
        Originally posted by Ernie
        The "Rebuild" consists of more than just finding the money to retain key pieces.. it involves upgrading in several areas (as Northcoast has mentioned). With the right pieces (through the draft, free agency, and player development) it doesnt have to be a several year process.. the Dolphins went from "Tanking for Tua" last year... to almost making the playoffs this year with a revamped roster.
        perhaps retool would be a better term then rebuild in that case.
        i think most would think the term rebuild means an overhaul

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        • KYPITTFAN
          Backup
          • Sep 2015
          • 389

          #34
          We need Ben for one more year. Pitt needs to build offensive support for Mason or whomever is the QB after next season. We need top grade run blocking linemen and a bruising RB. That will make any QB better. I truly believe Mason (and not because of today) can be our QB and do well. Ben has made this O Line look good. They have been overrated for years.

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #35
            Originally posted by SteelBucks
            Rudolph can be a good backup like Charlie Batch. I’m not giving him the keys to the offense though. We still need a QB.
            He isn’t good Enough to even be a bridge qb in my book.

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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35648

              #36
              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
              He isn’t good Enough to even be a bridge qb in my book.
              so are the Steelers going to still trade ALMOST their entire draft choices to move up for Trevor Lawrence this year?

              hahahahahahahahahahaha

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27532

                #37
                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                so are the Steelers going to still trade ALMOST their entire draft choices to move up for Trevor Lawrence this year?

                hahahahahahahahahahaha
                Lawrence did not impress on Saturday night.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • hawaiiansteel
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                  • May 2008
                  • 35648

                  #38
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  Lawrence did not impress on Saturday night.
                  he didn't play well in last year's national championship against LSU either.

                  18/37 for 234 yards with zero TDs.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ernie
                    The "Rebuild" consists of more than just finding the money to retain key pieces.. it involves upgrading in several areas (as Northcoast has mentioned). With the right pieces (through the draft, free agency, and player development) it doesnt have to be a several year process.. the Dolphins went from "Tanking for Tua" last year... to almost making the playoffs this year with a revamped roster.
                    I agree with you. Addressing areas of need has to be strategic.

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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26636

                      #40
                      Can Canada turn Rudolph into a starting NFL QB?... it's the first year the QBs have had a real coach. I look at Allen in BUF and am in awe at his progression.

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                      • Steel Maniac
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        #41
                        Originally posted by NorthCoast
                        Can Canada turn Rudolph into a starting NFL QB?... it's the first year the QBs have had a real coach. I look at Allen in BUF and am in awe at his progression.
                        Whoever is the Bills QB coach , we need to steal him. LOL.

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                        • Northern_Blitz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 24373

                          #42
                          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                          I seriously doubt there is any sort of rebuild next year. unless they just stink it up in the playoffs.
                          we saw with some coaching adjustments, the offense look a lot better in the 2nd half of the colts game

                          this team was a #1 seed before they starting losing players to season ending injuries
                          watt, fitz, bush, edmonds, chase, DJ still on rookie deals.

                          i'll wait to see what omar can do with ben's cap hit before declaring we need a re build.

                          that said, if someone like trask is there in the 1st and they feel he can step in quickly. Im all for it
                          The rebuild won't be by choice.

                          Our cap situation isn't good, especially if we want to keep Ben.

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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 24373

                            #43
                            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                            pretty sure bud's gone and so is juju,
                            vance, vince and connor (Yaaawn) too

                            you want to totally rebuild this team cause we're going to lose 1 really good player on defense and an above average slot receiver in juju?
                            there's a 3rd round pick from last year already getting snaps in place of bud

                            plus, we don't even know what the cap will be. the estimate now is already higher then it was a few weeks ago.
                            they played during a pandemic this year, of course revenue will be down. maybe the owners and players association agree to a change in the cap next year due of it. there could be a clause in there for all we know

                            there are other good teams in just as bad of shape in next years cap.
                            the saints are actually in worse position.

                            let's see whats decided before freaking out
                            I'm assuming the cap doesn't go down, but stays about the same at $200M. Maybe they have to borrow from future cap increases to do that.

                            I had a post about this somewhere, but were above that number with something like 30 guys under contract.

                            And that doesn't include the big deal that Watt has earned.

                            It does include Ben's $41M IIRC. And cutting / retiring him saves us $20M.

                            I think that's something that will happen now given his play over the last month and that keeping him means there won't be much around him.

                            And if I'm wrong and it's not next year, I think it's certainly in the next 3.

                            Doing it now means there's one year of bad cap. If we extend Ben, it's probably more than 1 year.

                            I'd rather rip off the bandaid. But the Rooneys might go another way.

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                            • Northern_Blitz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24373

                              #44
                              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                              perhaps retool would be a better term then rebuild in that case.
                              i think most would think the term rebuild means an overhaul
                              If you lose your franchise QB, it a rebuild IMO.

                              If we keep Ben, I'm happy to think of it as retooling.

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                              • Northern_Blitz
                                Legend
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24373

                                #45
                                Originally posted by KYPITTFAN
                                We need Ben for one more year. Pitt needs to build offensive support for Mason or whomever is the QB after next season. We need top grade run blocking linemen and a bruising RB. That will make any QB better. I truly believe Mason (and not because of today) can be our QB and do well. Ben has made this O Line look good. They have been overrated for years.
                                I think they're is no way we let Ben play his last contract year.

                                Eating that cap hit means we lose too many of the players your talking about.

                                Take a year to rehab the cap.

                                If we're bad under MR or whatever cheap QB he competes with, it's good because we get a better shot at a franchise QB.

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