Mason rudolph

[Ernie]

We’re not a legit contender with Rudolph.

Who said we were?

[SteelBucks]

Who said we were?

I’m just making a point that Rudolph doesn’t move the needle in improving this team. I think we can all agree that OL and RB are in serious need of upgrades.

[Ernie]

I’m just making a point that Rudolph doesn’t move the needle in improving this team. I think we can all agree that OL and RB are in serious need of upgrades.

Dumping Ben's 40 million a year would go a long way towards filling much needed voids. We made a mistake by extending him prior to last season.. at this point in his career.. it shouldve been 1 year at a time. He wasn't in danger of going anywhere

[SteelBucks]

Dumping Ben's 40 million a year would go a long way towards filling much needed voids. We made a mistake by extending him prior to last season.. at this point in his career.. it shouldve been 1 year at a time. He wasn't in danger of going anywhere

They could always restructure. I’d just feel uncomfortable going into next season without a QB. Maybe I have too much of the 80s and 90s memories. Always good but always lacking the major QB piece.

[Northern_Blitz]

I cant imagine Ben being back next year. Hes so stinking fragile... basically a player/coach at this point... you cant be a legit contender with a QB that doesnt practice through the week.

I also think he'll be given the 43 treatment.

I don't think we can let him play out his contract because of the cap hit.

And I don't see us extending him and committing to another ~ $75 - $100 M.

But who knows. He's certainly earned a lot of good will with the franchise for his play.

[KYPITTFAN]

Two dropped passes and one that could have been caught ended drives. Defense did not show to start also.

missed the first half

were there a lot of short quick throws like we've seen in weeks prior to today? aside from the colts 2nd half

[Northern_Blitz]

They could always restructure. I’d just feel uncomfortable going into next season without a QB. Maybe I have too much of the 80s and 90s memories. Always good but always lacking the major QB piece.

Next year is his last year, so I don't think we can restructure. We did restructure him this year to kick more cap hit into next year and make more room this year.

We can extend him and try to kick more cap down the road. But I think we'd need to extend him at least 2 and maybe 3 years. And it makes the mountain of cap hit at the end of the deal even bigger.

And it looks to me like we won't have a great team next year because we are already over what the cap should be with about 20 roster spots to fill.

I think a big rebuild starts next season.

But I also don't understand all the ways that we can move cap hits to future years.

[KYPITTFAN]

Does not only being sacked once and a good completion percentage not imply quick and good reads?

He's still slow getting through his progressions. Against better pass rushing it will be his Achilles heel.
But, that is something that can improve with more PT.

[SteelBucks]

Next year is his last year, so I don't think we can restructure. We did restructure him this year to kick more cap hit into next year and make more room this year.

We can extend him and try to kick more cap down the road. But I think we'd need to extend him at least 2 and maybe 3 years. And it makes the mountain of cap hit at the end of the deal even bigger.

And it looks to me like we won't have a great team next year because we are already over what the cap should be with about 20 roster spots to fill.

I think a big rebuild starts next season.

But I also don't understand all the ways that we can move cap hits to future years.

That’s why we have Omar Khan. I also don’t understand all the ways to move money around without tearing apart the team.

[Ernie]

Next year is his last year, so I don't think we can restructure. We did restructure him this year to kick more cap hit into next year and make more room this year.

We can extend him and try to kick more cap down the road. But I think we'd need to extend him at least 2 and maybe 3 years. And it makes the mountain of cap hit at the end of the deal even bigger.

And it looks to me like we won't have a great team next year because we are already over what the cap should be with about 20 roster spots to fill.

I think a big rebuild starts next season.

But I also don't understand all the ways that we can move cap hits to future years.

I agree that the big rebuild starts next year...and keeping Ben around takes away from that.

[NorthCoast]

Does not only being sacked once and a good completion percentage not imply quick and good reads?

He wasn't under a lot of blitz pressure. But a check of the stats says he did release the ball in an avg 2.6 sec. so maybe not as slow as my perception (probably biased by Roethlisberger's game).

[NJ-STEELER]

I seriously doubt there is any sort of rebuild next year. unless they just stink it up in the playoffs.
we saw with some coaching adjustments, the offense look a lot better in the 2nd half of the colts game

this team was a #1 seed before they starting losing players to season ending injuries
watt, fitz, bush, edmonds, chase, DJ still on rookie deals.

i'll wait to see what omar can do with ben's cap hit before declaring we need a re build.

that said, if someone like trask is there in the 1st and they feel he can step in quickly. Im all for it

[Ernie]

I seriously doubt there is any sort of rebuild next year. unless they just stink it up in the playoffs.
we saw with some coaching adjustments, the offense look a lot better in the 2nd half of the colts game

this team was a #1 seed before they starting losing players to season ending injuries
watt, fitz, bush, edmonds, chase, DJ still on rookie deals.

i'll wait to see what omar can do with ben's cap hit before declaring we need a re build.

that said, if someone like trask is there in the 1st and they feel he can step in quickly. Im all for it

Unless Omar can walk on water.. theres no way hes going to be able to retain all the talent that this year's team has.. there will be several key departures in the off season.

[NJ-STEELER]

Unless Omar can walk on water.. theres no way hes going to be able to retain all the talent that this year's team has.. there will be several key departures in the off season.

pretty sure bud's gone and so is juju,
vance, vince and connor (Yaaawn) too

you want to totally rebuild this team cause we're going to lose 1 really good player on defense and an above average slot receiver in juju?
there's a 3rd round pick from last year already getting snaps in place of bud

plus, we don't even know what the cap will be. the estimate now is already higher then it was a few weeks ago.
they played during a pandemic this year, of course revenue will be down. maybe the owners and players association agree to a change in the cap next year due of it. there could be a clause in there for all we know

there are other good teams in just as bad of shape in next years cap.
the saints are actually in worse position.

let's see whats decided before freaking out

[NorthCoast]

pretty sure bud's gone and so is juju,
vance, vince and connor (Yaaawn) too

you want to totally rebuild this team cause we're going to lose 1 really good player on defense and an above average slot receiver in juju?
there's a 3rd round pick from last year already getting snaps in place of bud

plus, we don't even know what the cap will be. the estimate now is already higher then it was a few weeks ago.
they played during a pandemic this year, of course revenue will be down. maybe the owners and players association agree to a change in the cap next year due of it. there could be a clause in there for all we know

there are other good teams in just as bad of shape in next years cap.
the saints are actually in worse position.

let's see whats decided before freaking out

The defense is fine. Highsmith showing he can step into Dupree's spot. Get back key players and this defense is again top 5; draft for depth, especially ILB.
Offense on the other hand needs major work; aging QB, OL that has faded badly in the last two months, TEs that are just OK, RBs that are just OK, WRs that lack consistency (except for the one that will likely be leaving)... who's left?