The real reason that I backed off posting on this great board . . .

[flippy]

Is because of the resistance I got from my contention that Tomlin is not the guy to lead us to a super bowl.

So, honest question - what are your thoughts about him now?

Our QB canÂ’t throw deep, our WRs canÂ’t catch, our Oline canÂ’t pass or run block, we have no running game, play calling is atrocious, our D hasnÂ’t been able to stop the run, we give up a lot of critical big plays, weÂ’ve been decimated by injuries, weÂ’ve been iffy on ST even missing extra points, etc.

There is not a player or coach in this organization without blame except our head coach. Tomlin doesnÂ’t throw the ball or catch passes or play D or call the plays or pick the players, etc.

How can you blame the coach when itÂ’s clearly everyone else but him? Tomlin says all the right things after every game. Win or lose. HeÂ’s consistent. How can you blame a guy who demands his team defend every blade of grass when the players and the play calling donÂ’t lead to a shut out. Tomlin coached for a shutout to happen and if it didnÂ’t, weÂ’ll thatÂ’s not on Tomlin.

Tomlin coaches this team to score a lot of points and not give up any. He coaches them to win every game. How can you blame Tomlin if players live in their fears and lose. How can you blame him if the next man up doesnÂ’t will us to victory?

Tomlin is full on unleash hell mode right now. Tomlin will get more unleashing than the amount of unleashing any other coach could possibly get from these players.

Ultimately the buck stops on the field and with the coordinators and position coaches and the owners and GM have accountability as well. If everything else around Tomlin were perfect, it would be easy to see he would then be responsible for that perfection.

If you canÂ’t see TomlinÂ’s perfection, I have to question your eye doctor. In all seriousness though, Tomlin will say the perfect things in his next presser and it will be up to the org to respond. We may or may not respond, but just know Tomlin will have said enough in the most perfect way possible.

When things go bad, itÂ’s near impossible to know who deserves the blame in reality.

[Northern_Blitz]

I held back, hoping that I was wrong.

So was that the reason you weren't posting?

I think Ben is a bigger problem with the O than Tomlin.

Just like I think Ben was more responsible for the SB win than Tomlin.

I don't see how anyone would expect a coaching change to fix the problem of our QB not being able to throw intermediate or deep balls accurately.

Or maybe people expect that a new coach would be able to pull up the settings menu and turn injuries off?

What exactly do you think Tomlin is failing at?

[Northern_Blitz]

I held back, hoping that I was wrong.

So you had nothing you wanted to post about except thinking we couldn't win with Tomlin?

[Northern_Blitz]

I no longer refuse to blame Mason Rudolph or the Duck anymore. We are seeing the same thing this year with offensive weapons.

This offensive scheme is worse than some high school teams. This dink, dank, dunk won't win us another game outside maybe Cinci.

I like Tomlin but the problem I have with him is he doesn't seem to embrace change. This offensive ****-show should be ended now. Should have been ended 5 weeks ago. If Ben can't get it done, next man up.

I think the problem is that the next men can't even throw short passes well.

[Northern_Blitz]

So you overlook Ben, the offensive line, Connor and the drops? Ok big fellow whatever makes your boat float. Ben is scared to get hit, stubborn and want to run the show. It's hard to blame Randy or Tomlin when they're trying to cater to an ego!!!!

I worry that it's inability and not ego.

If it was ego, he might still take some hole shots against cover 2. Or hit deep balls against a single high safety.

He still has the arm to throw deep, but doesn't seem to have the accuracy.

It's like he's some odd combo of Alex Smith and Flacco.

I hope your right and its just ego, because then losing a few games might change his mind.

Or maybe that it's something about the surgery and it will get better sometime in the next 2 to 3 weeks.

[Northern_Blitz]

Our QB canÂ’t throw deep, our WRs canÂ’t catch, our Oline canÂ’t pass or run block, we have no running game, play calling is atrocious, our D hasnÂ’t been able to stop the run, we give up a lot of critical big plays, weÂ’ve been decimated by injuries, weÂ’ve been iffy on ST even missing extra points, etc.

There is not a player or coach in this organization without blame except our head coach. Tomlin doesnÂ’t throw the ball or catch passes or play D or call the plays or pick the players, etc.

How can you blame the coach when itÂ’s clearly everyone else but him? Tomlin says all the right things after every game. Win or lose. HeÂ’s consistent. How can you blame a guy who demands his team defend every blade of grass when the players and the play calling donÂ’t lead to a shut out. Tomlin coached for a shutout to happen and if it didnÂ’t, weÂ’ll thatÂ’s not on Tomlin.

Tomlin coaches this team to score a lot of points and not give up any. He coaches them to win every game. How can you blame Tomlin if players live in their fears and lose. How can you blame him if the next man up doesnÂ’t will us to victory?

Tomlin is full on unleash hell mode right now. Tomlin will get more unleashing than the amount of unleashing any other coach could possibly get from these players.

Ultimately the buck stops on the field and with the coordinators and position coaches and the owners and GM have accountability as well. If everything else around Tomlin were perfect, it would be easy to see he would then be responsible for that perfection.

If you canÂ’t see TomlinÂ’s perfection, I have to question your eye doctor. In all seriousness though, Tomlin will say the perfect things in his next presser and it will be up to the org to respond. We may or may not respond, but just know Tomlin will have said enough in the most perfect way possible.

When things go bad, itÂ’s near impossible to know who deserves the blame in reality.

I don't think I'll ever understand why people thing what players / coaches / GMs say in press conferences is relevant to anything.

The goal in those things for people associated with the team (except maybe the owner in the off season) is to say as little of substance as possible.

I do understand that some people like the way that Tomlin talks in press conferences, and others dislike it. But it's just a dog and pony show either way IMO.

[feltdizz]

I held back, hoping that I was wrong.

2 losses in a row after 11 wins means you are right?

[NorthCoast]

I'll give you one problem Tomlin has; he can't fix a broken HOF QB. As others have observed, the QB has lost half his game (and maybe all of his mojo). He hasn't been able to make defenses pay for crowding the box by opening up the field. Barring doing that, I fear it's more of the same here on out.

[Disco1981]

He's Horrible!

[Disco1981]

I don't think I'll ever understand why people thing what players / coaches / GMs say in press conferences is relevant to anything.

The goal in those things for people associated with the team (except maybe the owner in the off season) is to say as little of substance as possible.

I do understand that some people like the way that Tomlin talks in press conferences, and others dislike it. But it's just a dog and pony show either way IMO.

So...When we were 11-0, Tomlin gets all the credit, And now that we suck, He gets no blame...Ok

[Northern_Blitz]

So...When we were 11-0, Tomlin gets all the credit, And now that we suck, He gets no blame...Ok

Can you find a post where I give him all the credit?

My position has always been that talent is more important than coaching.

I just argue against the idea that changing the coach magically makes everything better.

[Eich]

Sorry, but I see nothing wrong with Tomlin's coaching at all this year. If you want to blame Tomlin for something, I'll go along with hiring Fichtner being a mistake. Otherwise, what Tomlin is working with on the field has over-achieved to this point. Same with last season.

[pfelix73]

He is a good coach and manager. His problem, much like Noll is sticking with his vets and ast. coaches too long. Loyalty is a good trait to a point. The ass-clowns running this offense should have been shown the door. This offense can't win in the NFL. It is not much better, if any at all then with mason and Duck last year. Teams are putting 9 amd 10 players in the box. It's not going to work.

Relucantly, and sadly, I agree with you. Let's see how the rest of the season pans out before calling for anyone's head. Although I am sick and tired of this Randy guy. He's probably on the chopping block unless he can somehow work a miracle in post season. If they can get to the Cleveland game with a 1 game lead on Cleveland, that can be their bye week as they won't need to win it. 13-3 is doable.

Root for the Rat birds tonight. Oi vey.

[flippy]

I don't think I'll ever understand why people thing what players / coaches / GMs say in press conferences is relevant to anything.

The goal in those things for people associated with the team (except maybe the owner in the off season) is to say as little of substance as possible.

I do understand that some people like the way that Tomlin talks in press conferences, and others dislike it. But it's just a dog and pony show either way IMO.

That's exactly what I was trying to say in my twisted tongue in cheek post.

Unfortunately, I think the Mike Tomlin pressers are the source of love and hate of the guy. It's kinda funny in a way because the same words are taken with polar opposite interpretations and I see how either side can love and hate the guy. And even why some hate and love him simultaneously.

What other venue do we have to gauge whether our coach has his finger on the pulse of the team? How else can we know if the team is responding to the coach unless they are doing what he says or addressing things that are issues?

In our current world, everything is heightened and these pressers are no different that politics. And I get Djfan's original point. Everyone has to feel a way about Tomlin like they do everything else. And they have to feel strongly and people have to social signal on those extremes so we limit conversation and rational thoughts.

For the average fan, sports is supposed to be a release from the real world. And you're supposed to be able to celebrate and complain with your buddies without judgement. But this social signaling is so black and white and of life or death importance to more and more people. At the same time, I don't blame anyone for taking sports to the extreme right now. I think there's heightened importance because life is crappy in many ways right now.

I say give everyone the benefit of the doubt right now and we should all try to find some humor in the ridiculousness of it all.

Tomlin sucks. Tomlin is awesome. And that's my thinking.

[Sword]

He is a good coach and manager. His problem, much like Noll is sticking with his vets and ast. coaches too long. Loyalty is a good trait to a point. The ass-clowns running this offense should have been shown the door. This offense can't win in the NFL. It is not much better, if any at all then with mason and Duck last year. Teams are putting 9 amd 10 players in the box. It's not going to work.

I agree 100% with both your post......