Most Underrated Steeler

[flippy]

Who do you think is the most underrated on our team?

On Offense, it could only be an OLineman because those are the only guys that don't get much attention. Maybe big Al is worthy of consideration given the pass rush matchups he draws week in and week out. But Ben gets rid of the ball so quickly, do those guys even have to be great?

Defensively, there's some under the radar guys like Vince and Alualu. But they're just good, sound football players who are steady contributors. They're good but not great.

Maybe Tuitt doesn't get the recognition he deserves. All the attention seems to go to TJ, Cam, and Minkah. And Tuitt might be the most imposing and dominant defender in the trenches that makes everyone better.

Bud used to be underrated, but he's come into his own in the last season. He is the guy besides Tuitt that I would not want to hit me. While TJ might be the better football player, I always feel like Bud might be the guy more likely to force a turnover or create a mistake.

The guys we don't talk a lot about that probably belong at the top of the underrated list are Haden and Nelson. Cam Sutton's coverage flies under the radar as well. Overall, the secondary doesn't get a lot of praise, but someone has to force the other QB to hold the ball so our pass rushers can get there.

I think Haden's been one of our best FA signings ever and his ability (even as he gets older) to take away a top target makes the whole D work. Nelson is right there with him.

And then there's Edmunds who's the other forgotten guy on the backend. I think he goes in the Alualu category. Good, but not great.

Overall, I think I'd go Haden or Nelson. It's really a toss up. Haden's got more history as a pro bowler and people know him, but I think people think he's old now. Nelson is a little less known so maybe he deserves the nod cause he's still got his best years ahead of him?

[Mr.wizard]

Not sure I feel that anyone is underrated.

[NorthCoast]

Easy one;

Chuks on offense. Game in, game out this guy has been as dependable as Watt is on defense. He's faced some serious opponents including Blacklock, Ngakoue, Houston. Pretty much shut those guys down.

Haden on defense. Why? Even though the guy was a pro bowler many weren't sure whether he would go into a slide in his waning years. I see no drop-off. He's been solid this whole season and he needs to heal up for the stretch run. The young DBs get the highlights but Haden's play on his side of the field is what allows others to shine.

[SidSmythe]

Easy one;

Chuks on offense. Game in, game out this guy has been as dependable as Watt is on defense. He's faced some serious opponents including Blacklock, Ngakoue, Houston. Pretty much shut those guys down.

Haden on defense. Why? Even though the guy was a pro bowler many weren't sure whether he would go into a slide in his waning years. I see no drop-off. He's been solid this whole season and he needs to heal up for the stretch run. The young DBs get the highlights but Haden's play on his side of the field is what allows others to shine.

Great call on CHUKS
I was disappointed when BANNER got the nod Week 1 and then watch Banner perform i thought "Chuks must be way behind"
Now?? You forget he's out there most of the time....and thats good.

[fordfixer]

The Fans everyone else is just a player.

[flippy]

Easy one;

Chuks on offense. Game in, game out this guy has been as dependable as Watt is on defense. He's faced some serious opponents including Blacklock, Ngakoue, Houston. Pretty much shut those guys down.

Haden on defense. Why? Even though the guy was a pro bowler many weren't sure whether he would go into a slide in his waning years. I see no drop-off. He's been solid this whole season and he needs to heal up for the stretch run. The young DBs get the highlights but Haden's play on his side of the field is what allows others to shine.

Forgot about Chuks. That probably means it’s him.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

I think that Chuks is the easy call on O. Wasn't a starter week 1, Has played great, and is rarely talked about. Even on the line there has been more talk about Dotson who has only played in a few games (and played well).

On D I would say that it is a tossup between VWill and Edmunds. Both have a history of being much maligned, and now that they are playing well they just aren't talked about. Actually, Edmunds has been talked about more as he has had some strong games so I'll go with Williams who is completely ignored unless he messes up, in which case he is talked about like a guy who barely belongs in the league.

[Northern_Blitz]

I agree that it's probably Edmunds on D.

He's good, but probably not good enough to live up to his draft position.

And delivering below expectations means that people often talk about him like he's terrible. Even he's something like "solid but not spectacular".

I also like the argument for V Williams, but think he's a runner up on D.

Chucks sounds like a good pick on O. Although I think it's always super hard for me to know anything about what happens on the O Line.

Maybe Berry on ST? Cut...then saw his replacement wasn't good at punting...then comes back and plays solid. Also maybe Dangerfield. Seems like he's always talked about as a cut, but keeps surviving. Although I don't know if you can be "underrated" while being the captain of your phase.

[NorthCoast]

I agree that it's probably Edmunds on D.

He's good, but probably not good enough to live up to his draft position.

And delivering below expectations means that people often talk about him like he's terrible. Even he's something like "solid but not spectacular".

I also like the argument for V Williams, but think he's a runner up on D.

Chucks sounds like a good pick on O. Although I think it's always super hard for me to know anything about what happens on the O Line.

Maybe Berry on ST? Cut...then saw his replacement wasn't good at punting...then comes back and plays solid. Also maybe Dangerfield. Seems like he's always talked about as a cut, but keeps surviving. Although I don't know if you can be "underrated" while being the captain of your phase.

A fun look back.....

Good call on Edmunds. The only safeties in his draft class that are better are Fitz and Bates. Edmunds has consistently played 90+% of defensive snaps. Not so with Bates or the other safeties. Edmunds might not be special, but he is always on the field, understands the defense, and not afraid to stick his nose in on tackles. Sure, he has some misses but even Fitz has had his gaffes.
I think the Steelers will offer him a strong average contract.

Too early to give an underrated on 2021 Steelers but the early running for me; Schobert, and Haden (teams are barely looking his way on passes, he's that sound).

[Iron City Inc.]

Our O line is still below par. In some areas well below. The one dude who has been okay is Dotson. He gets to the second level and walls off well. Has the ability to pull and moves the pile. His pass pro is good enough. Don't remember to many flags being tossed on him so in a pool of question marks he has been at least steady. Not sure how high his ceiling is but at least he has shown he's got some game.

[Oviedo]

A fun look back.....

Good call on Edmunds. The only safeties in his draft class that are better are Fitz and Bates. Edmunds has consistently played 90+% of defensive snaps. Not so with Bates or the other safeties. Edmunds might not be special, but he is always on the field, understands the defense, and not afraid to stick his nose in on tackles. Sure, he has some misses but even Fitz has had his gaffes.
I think the Steelers will offer him a strong average contract.

Too early to give an underrated on 2021 Steelers but the early running for me; Schobert, and Haden (teams are barely looking his way on passes, he's that sound).

Troy use to have lots of missed tackles but he sandwiched those with "wow" plays so people overlooked them. Edmunds doesn't do "wow" which is why he gets so much undeserved criticism...he just sound and solid.

[Oviedo]

Our O line is still below par. In some areas well below. The one dude who has been okay is Dotson. He gets to the second level and walls off well. Has the ability to pull and moves the pile. His pass pro is good enough. Don't remember to many flags being tossed on him so in a pool of question marks he has been at least steady. Not sure how high his ceiling is but at least he has shown he's got some game.

...and he is only a second year player with less than 10 NFL starts. Future is bright

[NorthCoast]

Our O line is still below par. In some areas well below. The one dude who has been okay is Dotson. He gets to the second level and walls off well. Has the ability to pull and moves the pile. His pass pro is good enough. Don't remember to many flags being tossed on him so in a pool of question marks he has been at least steady. Not sure how high his ceiling is but at least he has shown he's got some game.

I was shocked to hear that Chuks has yet to give up a sack this season. He's not very good at run blocking but he's been holding his own in pass pro.

[NorthCoast]

Saw this to back up Edmunds underrating:

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[Northern_Blitz]

A fun look back.....

Good call on Edmunds. The only safeties in his draft class that are better are Fitz and Bates. Edmunds has consistently played 90+% of defensive snaps. Not so with Bates or the other safeties. Edmunds might not be special, but he is always on the field, understands the defense, and not afraid to stick his nose in on tackles. Sure, he has some misses but even Fitz has had his gaffes.
I think the Steelers will offer him a strong average contract.

Too early to give an underrated on 2021 Steelers but the early running for me; Schobert, and Haden (teams are barely looking his way on passes, he's that sound).

Thanks for the props!

I wonder if Bush is most underrated on the D for similar reasons as Edmunds. Hasn't lived up to his draft position (yet?) but still solid when playing. Leaves us wanting more. But maybe the very high pedigree still leaves his expectations too high to be most underrated. It's funny because there might be a argument for him to be most overrated too. Maybe that just means that opinions on him are most polarized?

I like the Schobert pick too.

Haden is interesting because I think my opinion of him today and my opinion of what he will be in a year or two are pretty different.

On offense, I'm hoping that it will be Green that's most underrated after a start that hasn't been great. Maybe that will allow Ben to be more underrated.

With Juju out, at least one of the receiving options will have a chance to outperform expectations. I hope it's Claypool in the slot making some great catch and run plays over the middle. But given that we haven't been attempting too many of those plays with Juju, it's hard to be too confident it's going to happen with Claypool. Would be nice to be using Freiermuth more too.