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  • Buzz
    Legend
    • Dec 2017
    • 8487

    #46
    Originally posted by NorthCoast
    Yea, the polling companies are now blaming the pollees for their failures.... what a joke. Their methods clearly are outdated. Random phone calls to random people doesn't work.
    I think by this year many of them knew their methods were off. How can anyone believe that CNN was doing honest polling when they had Biden up by 17 a few days ago in one of the neck and neck battleground states? According to the preponderance of polls, it should have been a Biden landslide. To me, seems more likely that those media outlets were trying to influence the vote than they were trying to report the news.

    Political bias and corruption permeate the news media and social media companies. Really hard to believe anything they tell us. When you have the government continually lying and the media continually lying, don't be surprised when your country unravels.

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    • NorthCoast
      Legend
      • Sep 2008
      • 26643

      #47
      Originally posted by Buzz
      I think by this year many of them knew their methods were off. How can anyone believe that CNN was doing honest polling when they had Biden up by 17 a few days ago in one of the neck and neck battleground states? According to the preponderance of polls, it should have been a Biden landslide. To me, seems more likely that those media outlets were trying to influence the vote than they were trying to report the news.

      Political bias and corruption permeate the news media and social media companies. Really hard to believe anything they tell us. When you have the government continually lying and the media continually lying, don't be surprised when your country unravels.
      Agreed. If you saw the movie "Network" you can understand that they no longer report the news, they create it. I actually turn to Reuters as a semi-independent source. They are not immune but they are a whole lot more balanced than garbage on domestic outlets.

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      • whisper
        Legend
        • Mar 2020
        • 9423

        #48
        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        Agreed. If you saw the movie "Network" you can understand that they no longer report the news, they create it. I actually turn to Reuters as a semi-independent source. They are not immune but they are a whole lot more balanced than garbage on domestic outlets.
        Isn't Reuters also owned by the Rothschilds as well? They own the AP.

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        • BURGH86STEEL
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 6938

          #49
          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          Better QB MAKES plays.
          Better secondary PREVENTS QB from making plays.
          Well what was the main factor why the Giants were able to defeat Brady 2 times in the SB? IMO the main factor was pressure up front. Pass defense doesn't boil down to how well the secondary plays. LB performance plays a role in pass defense. Pressure up front plays a role in pass defense. Bottom line is that defensive units must function as one unit to have success.

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          • BURGH86STEEL
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6938

            #50
            Originally posted by NorthCoast
            I can agree all teams have talent. But we've heard it often enough from players, coaches, and talking heads what separates the great players from the talented players is consistency. The Aaron Donalds, TJ Watts, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Bradys are far and away more consistent than their peers. To some degree it is coachable but it seems there is an innate mindset that they want and can win on every play not just a few splash plays here and there. We can all hate AB for what he became, but he was the ultimate in consistency and a great WR.
            I agree that the factor that separates players careers is the consistency at which they play at a high level. That being said, players that have lesser careers can have great games, seasons, playoff games ect. At times, other players or units performance can contribute to a players' success.

            People get all bent out of shape about Bortles winning vs the Steelers in 2017. Bortles made some plays. There were also several factors that contributed to the success that Bortles had in the game. Jags defense, run game, Ben giving the ball away early, ect.

            Teabow made a good throw to close out the game vs the Steelers in OT. The narrative seem to become that Tebow had a great game to defeat the Steelers. As a result, Tomlin sucks. Players that make it into the NFL can play and make plays.
            Looking at Nick Foles play today you wonder how he was able to have a good enough season in Philly to help the Eagles win the SB vs the Pats. Eli Manning helped defeat the Pats 2 times in the SB. Manning's career wasn't close to the career Brady had with the Pats. Football is the ultimate team game. Players can have success within structure of the team.

            It doesn't matter how great a career a player has in a one game situation. What matters is how well that player performs in a one game situation. I remember in 1995 that Seau wrecked the Steelers offensive game plan. He didn't have near the level of success wrecking the 49ners game plan in the SB.

            The Cowboys have players on both sides of the ball that could give the Steelers some problems. The Steelers could lose the game if they don't play well enough and make mistakes. I don't expect the Steelers to lose vs the Boys but it wouldn't surprise me if they loss.

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 26643

              #51
              Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
              I agree that the factor that separates players careers is the consistency at which they play at a high level. That being said, players that have lesser careers can have great games, seasons, playoff games ect. At times, other players or units performance can contribute to a players' success.

              People get all bent out of shape about Bortles winning vs the Steelers in 2017. Bortles made some plays. There were also several factors that contributed to the success that Bortles had in the game. Jags defense, run game, Ben giving the ball away early, ect.

              Teabow made a good throw to close out the game vs the Steelers in OT. The narrative seem to become that Tebow had a great game to defeat the Steelers. As a result, Tomlin sucks. Players that make it into the NFL can play and make plays.
              Looking at Nick Foles play today you wonder how he was able to have a good enough season in Philly to help the Eagles win the SB vs the Pats. Eli Manning helped defeat the Pats 2 times in the SB. Manning's career wasn't close to the career Brady had with the Pats. Football is the ultimate team game. Players can have success within structure of the team.

              It doesn't matter how great a career a player has in a one game situation. What matters is how well that player performs in a one game situation. I remember in 1995 that Seau wrecked the Steelers offensive game plan. He didn't have near the level of success wrecking the 49ners game plan in the SB.

              The Cowboys have players on both sides of the ball that could give the Steelers some problems. The Steelers could lose the game if they don't play well enough and make mistakes. I don't expect the Steelers to lose vs the Boys but it wouldn't surprise me if they loss.
              It would shock the hell out of me if they lost. It would mean failure at multiple levels against a team that has multiple weaknesses. Unless Roethlisberger loses his mind I don't see it.

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              • BURGH86STEEL
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6938

                #52
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                It would shock the hell out of me if they lost. It would mean failure at multiple levels against a team that has multiple weaknesses. Unless Roethlisberger loses his mind I don't see it.
                I watched the Steelers lose to an expansion team the Steelers dominated statistically. I watched the 17-0 Pats lose to the 9-7 regular season Giants in the SB. Ish happens in sports.

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                • BURGH86STEEL
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 6938

                  #53
                  Just read that Zeke has hamstring issue. That could make life a little easier for the Steelers.

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                  • fordfixer
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 10940

                    #54
                    I almost changed my normal Prediction to
                    Steelers 3 Cowboys 0,
                    but I didn’t want to seem too overconfident.

                    Molon labe

                    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell

                    ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
                    Mike Tomlin

                    American metal pimped by asiansteel
                    Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you 1. Jesus Christ, 2.The American G.I., One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35655

                      #55
                      Originally posted by fordfixer
                      I almost changed my normal Prediction to
                      Steelers 3 Cowboys 0,
                      but I didn’t want to seem too overconfident.
                      lol...better to stay humble

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                      • fordfixer
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 10940

                        #56
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        lol...better to stay humble
                        My thoughts exactly

                        Molon labe

                        People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell

                        ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
                        Mike Tomlin

                        American metal pimped by asiansteel
                        Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you 1. Jesus Christ, 2.The American G.I., One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16126

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Buzz
                          I think by this year many of them knew their methods were off. How can anyone believe that CNN was doing honest polling when they had Biden up by 17 a few days ago in one of the neck and neck battleground states? According to the preponderance of polls, it should have been a Biden landslide. To me, seems more likely that those media outlets were trying to influence the vote than they were trying to report the news.

                          Political bias and corruption permeate the news media and social media companies. Really hard to believe anything they tell us. When you have the government continually lying and the media continually lying, don't be surprised when your country unravels.
                          People simply cannot see how silly these conspiracies are. Logic people, logic.

                          How does having someone up by 17 "influence" a vote in his favor? Being favored is a disincentive to getting maximum turnout. He doesn't need "my" vote if it is inconvenient for me.

                          If a network wanted manipulate numbers to help a candidate they would have them down by a point.

                          If the true numbers say it is really close, inflating either candidates numbers artificially would be the best way to HURT him not help him.
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