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  • Mr.wizard
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    • May 2014
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    #31
    Originally posted by Eich
    I think that would even be LESS of a time to have a look at him. Bring him in cold when we're on a hot streak, into an offense he doesn't know? That would be a hot mess IMO.

    He wasn't good at all the last time he played. I'd rather see what we have in Rudolph or Lynch.

    I see no reason at all to bring him in. But what do I know. I never thought we'd see Michael Vick in a Steelers uniform. That seemed like the Steelers office trying to appease Tony Dungy's effort to work with Vick. At the time, there were a LOT of Steelers fans against that move.

    If some team legitimately needs a backup QB and wants to bring him into camp to learn the offense, I have no issue with it. But I think it would be pointless for the Steelers to do it at this point and would just bring unnecessary drama to the team.
    You make a good point, bringing him in cold is definitely not a great option but if your backups are Rudolph and Lynch it might be your best bet. At least with Kap you know he has the ability to take a team deep in the playoffs.

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    • Buzz
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      • Dec 2017
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      #32
      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
      Let me explain something...........

      Kapernick sued the league. And Eric Reid piggy backed on the lawsuit. He and Eric Reid settled for a certain amount of money. They had to split 10mil. When the league gives you money, the money is " go away" money. Think about it; you can't sue someone and then tell them, " now give me a job". It doesn't work that way and never will. There is a collusionary understanding amoung the owners not to
      sign him ever again.

      The reason Roger Goodall didn't mention his name in the league apology is for legal reasons. He can't; or it could lead to a possible opening up of more litigation. Notice Jerry Jones ( who runs the league) has went deaf/silent on this issue along with all the other owners in the league. Eric Reid was allowed back because he wasn't the lightening rod of the issue; Kap was.

      Owners are not allowing Kap back ever. His career is over.
      I wouldn't be so sure. Just saw a report that a team contacted Seattle's HC to get some info on Kaepernick. Somebody is at least kicking the tires on him. Plus, right now there seems to be growing public sentiment to bring him back.

      We should start a contest to guess -- who will be back in the league first, Kaepernick or AB?
      Last edited by Buzz; 06-12-2020, 11:47 AM.

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      • Mr.wizard
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        • May 2014
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        #33
        Originally posted by Buzz
        I wouldn't be so sure. Just saw a report that a team contacted Seattle's HC to get some info on Kaepernick. Somebody is at least kicking the tires on him.

        We should start a contest to guess -- who will be back in the league first, Kaepernick or AB?
        I would be shocked if somebody doesnt sign him, in the current climate it is the best time to sign him and what better way to squash the collusion narrative.

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
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          #34
          Originally posted by Buzz
          I wouldn't be so sure. Just saw a report that a team contacted Seattle's HC to get some info on Kaepernick. Somebody is at least kicking the tires on him. Plus, right now there seems to be growing public sentiment to bring him back.

          We should start a contest to guess -- who will be back in the league first, Kaepernick or AB?
          I also think someone will sign him. It’s the perfect time.

          I think it really comes down to his pride. Will he sign for a backup role or does he still want to start?
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          • whisper
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            • Mar 2020
            • 9423

            #35
            Originally posted by Mr.wizard
            I would be shocked if somebody doesnt sign him, in the current climate it is the best time to sign him and what better way to squash the collusion narrative.
            It's a whole different world since George Floyd. That doesn't mean he will be signed by anyone but you never know...now.

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            • Steel Maniac
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              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              #36
              Originally posted by Buzz
              I wouldn't be so sure. Just saw a report that a team contacted Seattle's HC to get some info on Kaepernick. Somebody is at least kicking the tires on him. Plus, right now there seems to be growing public sentiment to bring him back.

              We should start a contest to guess -- who will be back in the league first, Kaepernick or AB?
              Just a lot of talk. To make it look like ( to the masses) that there is still opportunity when behind the scenes there really are not. Plus..why would he get a shot over Cam Newton? The owners are playing the masses; they've made a behind the scenes agreement to not
              have him in the league again.

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              • whisper
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                • Mar 2020
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                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                I also think someone will sign him. It’s the perfect time.

                I think it really comes down to his pride. Will he sign for a backup role or does he still want to start?
                Honestly, not playing for 4 years kind of ensures he isn't looking at a starting gig. MAYBE if he goes to a really QB-weak team, he would have a chance to "win" the starting gig, but NO team will hand him the starting gig from the start, and he is insane if he thinks anyone would. IF Pats and Jags are actually trying to win this season, they should take a flier on him, but I'm not sure either of those teams are trying to win games - they want one of the 2 big-time QBs in the 2021 draft.

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                • Steel Maniac
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                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #38
                  Even if he were allowed back in the league, logically, why would he get a shot over Cam? Because Cam too is willing to be a backup.
                  Last edited by Steel Maniac; 06-12-2020, 02:26 PM.

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                  • Buzz
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                    • Dec 2017
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    I also think someone will sign him. It’s the perfect time.

                    I think it really comes down to his pride. Will he sign for a backup role or does he still want to start?
                    It really comes down to how bad he really wants to play football. He's been out for what, 4 years? If he wants back in, he'll take a backup role if that's the best he can get.

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                    • Buzz
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                      • Dec 2017
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                      Even if he were allowed back in the league, logically, why would he get a shot over Cam? Because Cam too is willing to be a backup.
                      Winston > Cam > Kaepernick

                      Winston signed for what, 1 year, 1 million dollars?

                      Kinda knocked down the asking price for the other two, I would think.

                      And you're right, I'd think Cam would get a team before Kap. But I think Kap may well get signed, too.
                      Last edited by Buzz; 06-12-2020, 03:45 PM.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
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                        • May 2008
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Buzz
                        It really comes down to how bad he really wants to play football. He's been out for what, 4 years? If he wants back in, he'll take a backup role if that's the best he can get.
                        there currently are no starting QB jobs available, that's why Cam Newton hasn't signed with anyone yet. reports from Kaep's tryout were that he didn't look very good, and there are legit questions about if he even wants to play.

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                        • Sword
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                          • Sep 2011
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                          #42
                          No No No No..... dumb idea.....

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                          • hawaiiansteel
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                            • May 2008
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                            #43
                            Roger Goodell “encourages” a team to sign Colin Kaepernick

                            Posted by Mike Florio on June 15, 2020

                            The Commissioner is on the record regarding Colin Kaepernick.

                            Ten days are creating a video that proclaimed “black lives matter” but omitted Kaepernick’s name, Roger Goodell has said that he wants a team to sign Kaepernick.

                            “Well, listen, if he wants to resume his career in the NFL, then obviously it’s gonna take a team to make that decision,” Goodell told Mike Greenberg of ESPN. “But I welcome that, support a club making that decision, and encourage them to do that.

                            “If his efforts are not on the field but continuing to work in this space, we welcome him to that table and to help us, guide us, help us make better decisions about the kinds of things that need to be done in the communities. We have invited him in before, and we want to make sure that everybody’s welcome at that table, and trying to help us deal with some very complex, difficult issues, that have been around for a long time.

                            “But I hope we’re at a point now where everybody’s committed to making long-term, sustainable change.”

                            As we’ve said in the past, on multiple occasions, if Goodell and the NFL truly want Kaepernick back in the league, there are ways to make it happen. The Rams, as the reporting went, were nudged by the league in 2014 to select Michael Sam, the first openly gay player in the draft pool. Then, after the Rams cut Sam, Goodell reportedly called around to persuade someone to put Sam on a practice squad. The Cowboys eventually did.

                            Backroom deals get made all the time in the NFL. Teams always want something, from a Super Bowl to a draft to anything and everything else that the league office has the authority and discretion to dispense. If the league office wants Kaepernick on a team, the league office can make it happen, quickly.

                            Here, the league really shouldn’t have to work that hard. Things have changed since teams cowered to their fan bases and/or the Tweeter-in-Chief in 2017. Signing Kaepernick now likely would lead to a net gain, from jersey sales to ticket sales to the creation of a national following. Over the years, plenty of teams have volunteered to do Hard Knocks in order to create a national presence. That doesn’t work. Signing Kaepernick would.

                            It seems like it’s just a matter of time until someone figures it out. And if the league office does just a little more than publicly encourage all teams generally to sign Kaepernick by focusing on privately coaxing one to do it, that could be the thing that seals the deal.

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                            • pfelix73
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              because he is just as good if not better than most backups like Rudolph.
                              Based on what? His abilities 4 years ago? FOUR YEARS AGO
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                              • whatever
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                                • Sep 2019
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                                #45
                                So let's say a team does sign him and he sucks or uses the team to promote his agenda, or both.
                                Can you imagine if they cut him?
                                How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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