OT: Bell's return to Greatness

[Captain Lemming]

The Steelers. I’m not concerned about teams who aren’t us who can do it a different way.

Sure, we all want to win a SB but I don’t see how one can make the argument that we couldn’t keep talent at skill positions and draft aggressively go after the next QB and try and do it on a rookie deal.

I was totally against Shawns prediction on Mahomes but he was spot on.

Dizz, I wanted to go after Gilmore, using money we paid Brown.

How would suggest we do that?

[Captain Lemming]

We the Steelers or we the NFL?

We are the Steelers. Forget the VOLUMINOUS facts I've provided about league success.

The STEELERS have won SIX Superbowls. Not a single one without a HOF caliber DB.

I have contended that elites QB and DB are the best formula for championships.

Not only has nearly EVERY SINGLE HOF QB in the league had at least one elite secondary player in Superbowl victories.....

Our Steelers?
Only championship Steelers who are clearly HOFers who started the last two SBs...Ben and Troy.

[feltdizz]

We are the Steelers. Forget the VOLUMINOUS facts I've provided about league success.

The STEELERS have won SIX Superbowls. Not a single one without a HOF caliber DB.

I have contended that elites QB and DB are the best formula for championships.

Not only has nearly EVERY SINGLE HOF QB in the league had at least one elite secondary player in Superbowl victories.....

Our Steelers?
Only championship Steelers who are clearly HOFers who started the last two SBs...Ben and Troy.

Bradshaw was 31 when he won his 4th SB

Ben was 2 when he went to his 3rd SB.

Ben is 38 years young. Time isn’t on our side at the QB position.

[Northern_Blitz]

Dizz, I wanted to go after Gilmore, using money we paid Brown.

How would suggest we do that?

Lemming.

I generally agree with you about skill players.

I'm a bit torn on Juju. Right now, I think he's the only proven WR we have on the team.

I also think that players have a much greater chance of living up to 2nd contracts vs 3rd ones.

But I think Juju will end up having a market value that makes him a top 10 cap hit at WR.

I think the Steelers will offer him a long term deal (like we did with Bell).

Do you think that's something we should avoid?

Like I said, I'm personally torn. Maybe I'll feel different it we get a chance to evaluate our other WRs with a legit QB.

But if they don't really pan out, I do want Ben to have a legit weapon at WR for his last year or two (assuming he makes a successful comeback this year).

[NorthCoast]

Regarding Juju, it's a conundrum. A second contract comes down to this season. If he shines he could price himself off the team what with the other signings that must happen next season.
On the other hand, if his season is like last year, do you really want to resign him?

[Northern_Blitz]

Regarding Juju, it's a conundrum. A second contract comes down to this season. If he shines he could price himself off the team what with the other signings that must happen next season.
On the other hand, if his season is like last year, do you really want to resign him?

I agree that this is the question.

But, I think that he'll have a good season if we have a competent QB throwing the ball this year. If I'm wrong, I think we let him walk. I just don't think someone can do what he did in his first few years and then turn to ****.

Although if the answer is just "Ben made him look so much better than he actually was", then maybe that feeds into the idea that he wouldn't be worth the 2nd contract anyway.

I think the bottom line is that having a high cap hit QB means that you have to make tough decisions.

I think we'll find a way to keep JuJu in a contract that I don't hate but don't love either.

[feltdizz]

Dizz, I wanted to go after Gilmore, using money we paid Brown.

How would suggest we do that?

then we have to replace AB’s production.

I know people like you think we can easily replace production but it’s not guaranteed.

We also can’t get every great defensive player just because you want them.

[feltdizz]

I agree that this is the question.

But, I think that he'll have a good season if we have a competent QB throwing the ball this year. If I'm wrong, I think we let him walk. I just don't think someone can do what he did in his first few years and then turn to ****.

Although if the answer is just "Ben made him look so much better than he actually was", then maybe that feeds into the idea that he wouldn't be worth the 2nd contract anyway.

I think the bottom line is that having a high cap hit QB means that you have to make tough decisions.

I think we'll find a way to keep JuJu in a contract that I don't hate but don't love either.

Juju has admitted it’s much harder without AB being doubled and triple teamed.

Juju is much better than Mike Wallace underneath but the reason Wallace used to shine was because he was usually going against the 2nd or 3rd best WR. Once he was the #1 things changed.

Hopefully Juju bounces back but I’ve always been a fan of Juju in the slot.

Claypool may be the WR who helps Juju get his mojo back.

[Steel Maniac]

Regarding Juju, it's a conundrum. A second contract comes down to this season. If he shines he could price himself off the team what with the other signings that must happen next season.
On the other hand, if his season is like last year, do you really want to resign him?

So you think we're damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. I think Juju is going to have a big rebound year and I've got to feel optimistic that we resign him to a decent deal. Colbert likes to hold on to his own guys within reason. I'm hoping we can work out something with him.

[Captain Lemming]

Lemming.

I generally agree with you about skill players.

I'm a bit torn on Juju. Right now, I think he's the only proven WR we have on the team.

I also think that players have a much greater chance of living up to 2nd contracts vs 3rd ones.

But I think Juju will end up having a market value that makes him a top 10 cap hit at WR.

I think the Steelers will offer him a long term deal (like we did with Bell).

Do you think that's something we should avoid?

Like I said, I'm personally torn. Maybe I'll feel different it we get a chance to evaluate our other WRs with a legit QB.

But if they don't really pan out, I do want Ben to have a legit weapon at WR for his last year or two (assuming he makes a successful comeback this year).

If he tears it up? Don't wanna pay top dollar for ANY receiver. They are simply over valued.

I like the young guys, we have a season to see what Mapletron can do.

We also have perhaps the best tight end tandem ever.

[feltdizz]

If he tears it up? Don't wanna pay top dollar for ANY receiver. They are simply over valued.

I like the young guys, we have a season to see what Mapletron can do.

We also have perhaps the best tight end tandem ever.

Best TE tandem ever?

this is sarcasm right?

[Northern_Blitz]

Best TE tandem ever?

this is sarcasm right?

Maybe he means on the Steelers?

[Captain Lemming]

Best TE tandem ever?

this is sarcasm right?

Left out....Steelers

[feltdizz]

Left out....Steelers

I hope so. I’m not really a fan of Vance and Ebron has the talent but he hasn’t always shown it.

If they both show up it will definitely be our best TE tandem.