OT: Bell's return to Greatness

[NorthCoast]

I'm not sure that people disagree with this.

Personally, I think they had a bad O-Line and a declining RB that won't be able to deliver the value of the contract they gave him (which is their fault for offering the contract, not his for signing it).

That would make the second big bust of a contract signing behind Gurley.

One more and it's a trend.

[Northern_Blitz]

That would make the second big bust of a contract signing behind Gurley.

One more and it's a trend.

It kind of sucks for big time RBs, especially if they were drafted in the 1st round.

They have you very cheap for 4 years no matter what, you get the 5th year option if you're a 1st round pick, then you get 1 or 2 tags.

I think that's the smart way to build a team with an elite RB in the NFL because I don't think many guys have high production for more than 7 years. Maybe instead of a tag, you can go with a longer term contract with a high signing bonus that's easier to get rid of in the 2nd or 3rd year. I guess that probably preserves the relationship a bit more (although deals like this set up perverse incentives for agents in my opinion).

But honestly, all big 2nd contracts should be like that IMO. Even QBs. If I'm signing a QB to a big contract, I want a rip cord I can pull if the guy can't win when he's eating up so much cap space that I have to sacrifice in other places.

[feltdizz]

That would make the second big bust of a contract signing behind Gurley.

One more and it's a trend.

will be interesting if Gurley is a bust in ATL or if LA just bit off more than they can chew. They gave a lot of money to a few people and Aaron Donald is probably the only one who showed up last year.

They went all in last year and came up real short. Of course Gurley will be the scapegoat but i think Geoff is the weak link.

[feltdizz]

It kind of sucks for big time RBs, especially if they were drafted in the 1st round.

They have you very cheap for 4 years no matter what, you get the 5th year option if you're a 1st round pick, then you get 1 or 2 tags.

I think that's the smart way to build a team with an elite RB in the NFL because I don't think many guys have high production for more than 7 years. Maybe instead of a tag, you can go with a longer term contract with a high signing bonus that's easier to get rid of in the 2nd or 3rd year. I guess that probably preserves the relationship a bit more (although deals like this set up perverse incentives for agents in my opinion).

But honestly, all big 2nd contracts should be like that IMO. Even QBs. If I'm signing a QB to a big contract, I want a rip cord I can pull if the guy can't win when he's eating up so much cap space that I have to sacrifice in other places.

I don’t think so.

McCaffrey just broke the bank in Carolina. I don’t think Gurley has any impact on the next elite RB getting paid.

[Captain Lemming]

That would make the second big bust of a contract signing behind Gurley.

One more and it's a trend.

One more?
Read what I've said for YEARS on the topic. Paying "big bucks to back" "fails" was a "trend" going back to Chris Johnson my friend.

[whatever]

The Jets had one of the worst offensive lines last year. If it doesn't improve then Walter Payton in his prime couldn't run behind it.

What are we using to determine that they had one of the worst lines?

[NorthCoast]

I don’t think so.

McCaffrey just broke the bank in Carolina. I don’t think Gurley has any impact on the next elite RB getting paid.

Different situation. In CAR it's McCaffrey and literally nothing else.... including QB.

[Captain Lemming]

Gore’s ability to play this long is insane.

Agree on that. Rarity which is why you don't bet big bucks on a back.

[Captain Lemming]

I don’t think so.

McCaffrey just broke the bank in Carolina. I don’t think Gurley has any impact on the next elite RB getting paid.

Possibly....let's hope other teams are that stupid. I hope we.learned from the near miss of in our misguided attempt to sign Bell.

[Captain Lemming]

Different situation. In CAR it's McCaffrey and literally nothing else.... including QB.

It will be like being a Lions fan with Sanders, Vikes with AP, Dickerson Rams, or Bills fan with OJ.

Entertaining, stadium filling.

Great investment from that standpoint.

As I want championships I would never pay thatnmuch to CM.

[feltdizz]

It will be like being a Lions fan with Sanders, Vikes with AP, Dickerson Rams, or Bills fan with OJ.

Entertaining, stadium filling.

Great investment from that standpoint.

As I want championships I would never pay thatnmuch to CM.

That’s 2 totally different arguments.

[feltdizz]

Agree on that. Rarity which is why you don't bet big bucks on a back.

Most NFL players at any NFL position don’t play as long as Gore.

[Steel Maniac]

Different situation. In CAR it's McCaffrey and literally nothing else.... including QB.

Exactly... which is why Zeke got paid. Because the cowboys were not sure about Dak.

Their exceptions and not the rule.

[Steel Maniac]

It will be like being a Lions fan with Sanders, Vikes with AP, Dickerson Rams, or Bills fan with OJ.

Entertaining, stadium filling.

Great investment from that standpoint.

As I want championships I would never pay thatnmuch to CM.

Exactly...

Which is why a runningback will never get big money with Mahomes. Why would a runningback get big doe when he’s not the focal
Point of the offense?? Now when Mahomes gets older and not as mobile, then I could see the chiefs paying up for a young runningback to take pressure off of Mahomes. But until then, nope.

If Daniel Jones pans out to be legit
in New York, Barkley will be hard pressed to get a McCaffrey type contract. Not that he’s not as good as McCaffrey. Now if Daniel Jones doesn’t pan out, Barkley will get paid a mint.

[Steel Maniac]

Once you secure a legit qb, you can go into any draft to get a runningback on the cheap for 4-5 years. Like what KC just did.