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  • Steel Maniac
    Banned
    • Apr 2017
    • 19472

    #31
    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    Possibly....let's hope other teams are that stupid. I hope we.learned from the near miss of in our misguided attempt to sign Bell.
    We can only hope other ball clubs still follow the old , 1990’s model of giving big money to a position that’s been relatively devalued.

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    • whatever
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      • Sep 2019
      • 5789

      #32
      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
      Once you secure a legit qb, you can go into any draft to get a runningback on the cheap for 4-5 years. Like what KC just did.
      Yup. Rbs and wrs are a dime a dozen nowadays.
      Pay for your oline.
      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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      • feltdizz
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        • May 2008
        • 27230

        #33
        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
        Exactly...

        Which is why a runningback will never get big money with Mahomes. Why would a runningback get big doe when he’s not the focal
        Point of the offense?? Now when Mahomes gets older and not as mobile, then I could see the chiefs paying up for a young runningback to take pressure off of Mahomes. But until then, nope.

        If Daniel Jones pans out to be legit
        in New York, Barkley will be hard pressed to get a McCaffrey type contract. Not that he’s not as good as McCaffrey. Now if Daniel Jones doesn’t pan out, Barkley will get paid a mint.
        Barkley is up before Daniel Jones. He will get paid if he continues producing.
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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
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          #34
          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
          Once you secure a legit qb, you can go into any draft to get a runningback on the cheap for 4-5 years. Like what KC just did.
          you act like a Mahomes is easy to find.

          He’s a special player.

          Teams will always pay special players.
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          • Northern_Blitz
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            • Dec 2008
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            #35
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            I don’t think so.

            McCaffrey just broke the bank in Carolina. I don’t think Gurley has any impact on the next elite RB getting paid.
            Do you think McCaffrey will live up to that contract?

            I think it was a bad example of team building under a salary cap.

            We'll see I guess.

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            • feltdizz
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              • May 2008
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              #36
              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
              Do you think McCaffrey will live up to that contract?

              I think it was a bad example of team building under a salary cap.

              We'll see I guess.
              statistically? Yes.. he’s going to get touches in an offense. Teddy Bridgewater also checks down a ton.
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              • Captain Lemming
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                • Jun 2008
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                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                you act like a Mahomes is easy to find.

                He’s a special player.

                Teams will always pay special players.
                Yup and special QUARTERBACKS win championships.
                Special runningbacks.....not so much.

                You are correct special players get paid....dumb teams (or ones who value butts in the stands over championships) pay top dollar for runningbacks
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                • Steel Maniac
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                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #38
                  Originally posted by whatever
                  Yup. Rbs and wrs are a dime a dozen nowadays.
                  Pay for your oline.
                  you can go cheap on rb’s. Look at our last 10 SB winners for proof of that.

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                  • Steel Maniac
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                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #39
                    I guess nick Foles was special then.

                    I guess a depleted , shoulder shoot Payton Manning was special.

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      Yup and special QUARTERBACKS win championships.
                      Special runningbacks.....not so much.

                      You are correct special players get paid....dumb teams (or ones who value butts in the stands over championships) pay top dollar for runningbacks
                      Boom.......

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                      • steelers75
                        Benchwarmer
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 71

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        And as a Steeler fan yes I absolutely "want to think" and believe without a doubt we've seen the best out of Bell.
                        We have. He sucked last year and RBs don't tend to get better with age.

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                        • whatever
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                          • Sep 2019
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                          Yup and special QUARTERBACKS win championships.
                          Special runningbacks.....not so much.

                          You are correct special players get paid....dumb teams (or ones who value butts in the stands over championships) pay top dollar for runningbacks
                          Hmmmm, didn't we offer Bell HUGE contracts 2 years in a row?
                          How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                          • Captain Lemming
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                            • Jun 2008
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by whatever
                            Hmmmm, didn't we offer Bell HUGE contracts 2 years in a row?
                            You think you got me stuck in someplace where I need to defend stupidity cause I'm a Lemming?

                            My stated opinion of those offers?


                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            Exactly. I don’t get the resentment Bell is getting.
                            HE SAVED US FROM A STUPID MISTAKE.
                            I don’t even give Colbert props for not signing him because he offered stupid money.

                            Bell....you are my hero. Your ginormous ego only surpassed by your limitless greed is something to celebrate on this fine day.
                            Thank you LB for saving us from our own stupidity.
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            Thankfully, Bells ginormous ego and greed saved us from our own stupidity as we TRIED HARD to lock him up long term.
                            At least we held firm on the guaranteed dough he wanted, EXACT THING that put the Rams in a bind.

                            BTW, THIS IS WHY Bell wanted the guaranteed money.....because he knows this can happen. It in a weird way gives credence to his manipulation of the system and ensures he has no regrets no matter how bad the Jets are. I bag on his greed but on some level it is not as dumb as people think.

                            Bell want to ensure he gets paid in this scenario, Steelers want to be off the hook to be able to use cap dollar elsewhere to remain competitive.

                            Both parties had conflicting interests, Bell knew some other stupid team would give him more “guaranteed” money, even if it is a little less overall.

                            As a fan my interest are with the team, but the Gurley outcome gives credence to the stand taken by both parties.
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            This year is different though.
                            Our entire salary structure is based on a "need" to sign Bell.
                            Thanks to greedy Bell, that "budgeting" to sign him means we will likely have more dough to spend in free agency.

                            His greed saved us from our own stupidity, allowing us to go after a quality of free agent we could never afford before.
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            There is no "kicking Bell" when he's down. Considering we did no offer as much guaranteed money...he did the financially savvy thing.

                            Bell got paid by a STUPID team as I said he would. Bell may have well knew himself he was not going to be able to continue elite play. Don't hate on him for it. Heck like I said from day one dude saved us from our own stupidity. His greed did us a favor.

                            THANK YOU BELL!

                            This is about kicking his defenders when THEY are down. Seeing them squirm trying to defend their indefensible position.

                            I love THAT SPORT almost as much as I love football.
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            Interesting theory considering one of the few times I ranted AGAINST the team was ripping them for trying to sign him...

                            Yes I admit I begged him to "stay"...STAY GREEDY and NOT SIGN, to save us from our stupidity.

                            Rejoicing immediately when he expressed his decision to walk...

                            ARGUED WITH YOU FOR MONTHS we should NOT sign him...
                            Last edited by Captain Lemming; 05-15-2020, 04:43 PM.
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                            • feltdizz
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                              • May 2008
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by whatever
                              Hmmmm, didn't we offer Bell HUGE contracts 2 years in a row?
                              We did and I don’t think we were dumb to do so. Bell wasn’t the reason we didn’t beat the Jags. He damn near ran us to the AFCCG the year before.

                              Of course people often suggest that once you sign a RB to big money you can no longer sign or pay anyone else. It’s actually in the NFL rule book.

                              Thou shall not acquire anymore talent once a RB is paid big money.
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                              • Captain Lemming
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                                • Jun 2008
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                We did and I don’t think we were dumb to do so. Bell wasn’t the reason we didn’t beat the Jags. He damn near ran us to the AFCCG the year before.

                                Of course people often suggest that once you sign a RB to big money you can no longer sign or pay anyone else. It’s actually in the NFL rule book.

                                Thou shall not acquire anymore talent once a RB is paid big money.
                                Lack of defensive talent is why we lost. Bell AND Brown's salary could have gone a long way to shoring that talent up.
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                                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                                TCFCLTC-
                                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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