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  • steeler_george
    Hall of Famer
    • Dec 2008
    • 3417

    George's new years offseason plan

    ****This is from 2019 season going into 2020!****

    Happy New Year! I hope everyones hang over is not as bad as mine!

    Here are my basic offseason plans ( way too early) after what I have gathered from Tomlin's end of season presser, the media, and my own thoughts going forward.

    1) We need to change the scheme of th offense. Fitchner gets a pass, due to all the injuries, but I would tell him he is on a short leash if there is no improvement in his creativity and game plans. With him on board we need to change the focus of the basic scheme, need to be come a running team period. ( look at Indy, Tenn, SF, Bmore, even NE and Seattle)

    There is still alot of uncertainty surrounding Ben. Is he going to come back? Is he going to be any good? Is his arm going to be able to last? Too many questions, even if we do have a back up plan going into next year, are we going to really depend on a 2nd/3rd stringer to carry this team, if Ben can't go. We should of learned from last year, we can not take the risk again.

    With this defense we should be playoff or Superbowl contenders ( if the O can improve even slightly), so add more ammo to the D by controlling the clock on O by being a strong running team.

    2) Get a new punter, maybe I would even be willing to get the best punter in FA. Again add more ammo to this D, have teams pinned deep.

    3) Go all in for BUD. He and Watt make a deadly duo, don't mess with that 1-2 punch and chemistry.

    4) Our Cuts/FA, and (next man up)...

    Cut :Barron ( Gilbert,Edmunds?, Davis), Foster ( Feiler), Mcdonald ( Vennett, best blocking TE in FA), Chicko ( Skipper/OLa )

    OUR own FA: Let them to test the market ... Hargrave ( rookie/cheaper FA), Finney ( rookies) , Hilton place a 2nd round tender on him (Sutton/Davis )

    I really want Hargrave, but he will be placed way out of price range, we should get a Comp 3rd back for him. Finney is the hardest one to let go, he is the main back up too all interior positions, but that is what he is a backup. Yes, that is right I have Davis listed. I think he would be cheap and a good back up to fill in the 3rd safety/ hybrid -ILB we cove/ nickle back. Who knows maybe having him with a S like Fitz does wonders for him. I am not sure who is better Edmunds or Davis...

    Sign our FA: top 4 in this order to sign : Dupree, Feiler (as a Foster's replacement, have Banner/OKA at RT), Venette, Finney, Davis

    Steeler bargain FA: if we can't sign Finney a back up center, depth on DL, blocking TE

    Players I would love to have, but don't see it... Breida.

    5) Draft: all picks in the trenches, that is where it all starts at, and we have no future, nor depth...let our present skill players develop more with the exception of TE ( past 3 drafts I wanted a stud TE in the first)

    BPA in this order DL/C/G/TE

    6) Trade I might entertain, one of our 4th rounders to Raiders for Moreou. ( strong blocker and etiquette receiver) Venette and Moreou make a good blocking/rceiving TE duo.
    Last edited by steeler_george; 01-11-2021, 01:28 PM.

  • Ernie
    Legend
    • Aug 2013
    • 8470

    #2
    Feiler is a high priority FA. Hes a centerpiece in this OLine moving forward.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27564

      #3
      I thought it was a passing league?

      Im joking but that’s what everyone was saying for years and we built a team that could do just that. Now we want to become a running team? Will our pass protection suffer?

      Do we really need to become a running team if Ben comes back and is still tossing it around?

      If Ben can’t go next year it’s a wrap. We might as well blow things up and start over on offense but I think we keep everything in place this offseason and keep the same philosophy on offense.

      Only change I see is releasing Foster and maybe drafting someone to push AV.

      As far as what I want.

      Another RB. I don’t think Conner has what it takes to stay healthy.

      I think we keep Dupree and go DL early to replace Hargrave if he leaves.

      I also think we need that depth because Tuitt has been just as unreliable as Conner plus he is getting big money.

      We probably need another safety for depth. Some people aren’t fans of Edmunds but I think he will keep getting better.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • Mick'sTeam
        Backup
        • Jun 2008
        • 480

        #4
        I don't think the Raiders trade Moreau, especially for a 4th. They used a 4th on him last year and just finished a rookie campaign with 5 TD's. They're not bailing on him this quickly.

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        • Buzz
          Legend
          • Dec 2017
          • 8405

          #5
          Originally posted by Mick'sTeam
          I don't think the Raiders trade Moreau, especially for a 4th. They used a 4th on him last year and just finished a rookie campaign with 5 TD's. They're not bailing on him this quickly.
          Agreed. Too bad we didn't have enough money to sign a good FA TE. There are a couple of them coming up this year, I think.

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24382

            #6
            Originally posted by Buzz
            Agreed. Too bad we didn't have enough money to sign a good FA TE. There are a couple of them coming up this year, I think.
            I thought that there weren't any good UFA TEs around last year. That's why JJ got a high value deal.

            Mayne I'm misremembering?

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              #7
              Originally posted by Buzz
              Agreed. Too bad we didn't have enough money to sign a good FA TE. There are a couple of them coming up this year, I think.
              Just heard the Colts say they won't be pursuing Ebron.

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              • steeler_george
                Hall of Famer
                • Dec 2008
                • 3417

                #8
                Originally posted by Mick'sTeam
                I don't think the Raiders trade Moreau, especially for a 4th. They used a 4th on him last year and just finished a rookie campaign with 5 TD's. They're not bailing on him this quickly.

                I think you are right, but with Weller now the top TE, would they be willing to part with him?

                I just love trading with the Raiders!

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                • steeler_george
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3417

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                  Just heard the Colts say they won't be pursuing Ebron.
                  Who is more durable, Ebron or Vance? They both are fragile....

                  There are a few good TE in FA- Huneter, Hooper, J Doyle, Eiffert, but they all should be out of our $$$...

                  Some oldies as well, might take a swing at Clay, V. Davis

                  There is that one FA Irish man who came in for a visit and went to the Jags... O'Leary.

                  I wonder if Rudolf is going to be a cap casualty.

                  I like both TE in Seattle, Willson, and Holsten, woud be crazy if we reunite them with Vennette.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #10
                    Originally posted by steeler_george
                    I think you are right, but with Weller now the top TE, would they be willing to part with him?

                    I just love trading with the Raiders!
                    hahahahahahahahaha...you love getting over on them. We all do! I'd take Moreau as well. I liked him in the draft last year and I wanted him.

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                    • steeler_george
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3417

                      #11
                      I found this old post just wanted to see if anything changed from a year ago.

                      Originally posted by steeler_george
                      Happy New Year! I hope everyones hang over is not as bad as mine!

                      Here are my basic offseason plans ( way too early) after what I have gathered from Tomlin's end of season presser, the media, and my own thoughts going forward.

                      1) We need to change the scheme of th offense. Fitchner gets a pass, due to all the injuries, but I would tell him he is on a short leash if there is no improvement in his creativity and game plans. With him on board we need to change the focus of the basic scheme, need to be come a running team period. ( look at Indy, Tenn, SF, Bmore, even NE and Seattle)

                      There is still alot of uncertainty surrounding Ben. Is he going to come back? Is he going to be any good? Is his arm going to be able to last? Too many questions, even if we do have a back up plan going into next year, are we going to really depend on a 2nd/3rd stringer to carry this team, if Ben can't go. We should of learned from last year, we can not take the risk again.

                      With this defense we should be playoff or Superbowl contenders ( if the O can improve even slightly), so add more ammo to the D by controlling the clock on O by being a strong running team.

                      It looks like we ignored this, and once again haunted us. Ben showed he is healthy and still has it, but the plan has to change to start becoming more focused to run if Ben returns.


                      2) Get a new punter, maybe I would even be willing to get the best punter in FA. Again add more ammo to this D, have teams pinned deep.

                      We tried, went back to Berry, who wasn't bad at all in his second stint.


                      3) Go all in for BUD. He and Watt make a deadly duo, don't mess with that 1-2 punch and chemistry.
                      We tried, too bad he got hurt, now it is up to go all in for TJ...

                      4) Our Cuts/FA, and (next man up)...

                      Cut :Barron ( Gilbert,Edmunds?, Davis), Foster ( Feiler), Mcdonald ( Vennett, best blocking TE in FA), Chicko ( Skipper/OLa )

                      OUR own FA: Let them to test the market ... Hargrave ( rookie/cheaper FA), Finney ( rookies) , Hilton place a 2nd round tender on him (Sutton/Davis )

                      I really want Hargrave, but he will be placed way out of price range, we should get a Comp 3rd back for him. Finney is the hardest one to let go, he is the main back up too all interior positions, but that is what he is a backup. Yes, that is right I have Davis listed. I think he would be cheap and a good back up to fill in the 3rd safety/ hybrid -ILB we cove/ nickle back. Who knows maybe having him with a S like Fitz does wonders for him. I am not sure who is better Edmunds or Davis...

                      Sign our FA: top 4 in this order to sign : Dupree, Feiler (as a Foster's replacement, have Banner/OKA at RT), Venette, Finney, Davis

                      Steeler bargain FA: if we can't sign Finney a back up center, depth on DL, blocking TE

                      Players I would love to have, but don't see it... Breida.

                      We did the right moves but coming up next year, I think our depth next man up is f_cked,

                      5) Draft: all picks in the trenches, that is where it all starts at, and we have no future, nor depth...let our present skill players develop more with the exception of TE ( past 3 drafts I wanted a stud TE in the first)

                      BPA in this order DL/C/G/TE

                      we ignored this and it showed... now we are even worst... Is Dotson and Davis our saviors?

                      6) Trade I might entertain, one of our 4th rounders to Raiders for Moreou. ( strong blocker and etiquette receiver) Venette and Moreou make a good blocking/rceiving TE duo.

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                      • Northern_Blitz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24382

                        #12
                        Originally posted by steeler_george
                        I found this old post just wanted to see if anything changed from a year ago.
                        This is a cool thing to go back to.

                        I think your plan last season was a good one. And I think we had a reasonable plan IRL. Just didn't pan out the way we wanted it to.

                        I wouldn't be hard on our draft. I agree that it would have been nice to get more guys in the trenches. But last draft seems to be very good in terms of finding guys that actually contributed. I hope we have similar success in this upcoming draft (but I agree with you think I'd like to get some linemen).

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                        • steeler_george
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3417

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ernie
                          Feiler is a high priority FA. Hes a centerpiece in this OLine moving forward.
                          Who would of thought...

                          I still think he is a centerpiece moving forward, especially if they move on from Decasto.
                          Or if they move on from AV, Chucks or Banner...

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                          • steeler_george
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3417

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                            This is a cool thing to go back to.

                            I think your plan last season was a good one. And I think we had a reasonable plan IRL. Just didn't pan out the way we wanted it to.

                            I wouldn't be hard on our draft. I agree that it would have been nice to get more guys in the trenches. But last draft seems to be very good in terms of finding guys that actually contributed. I hope we have similar success in this upcoming draft (but I agree with you think I'd like to get some linemen).
                            I love last years draft class, they are going to pay dividends next year... funny thing looking at old post I found a mock draft of us selecting RB Gibson, if only....

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