Life after Ben isn’t so bad

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  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24382

    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
    you're welcome.

    I learned long ago to keep my political and religious views to myself. you're never going to change anyone's mind and probably just end up pissing them off.
    Mentally I agree with you.

    But I don't always do a good job with the more emotional / reactive part of my brain.

    Recently read (actually listened to the audiobook) "The Righteous Mind" by Johnathan Haidt. Thought it was an interesting look at how humans think about moral judgments. Pretty interesting read from a guy I think is about as non-partisan as we get these days .

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    • papillon
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      Ladies and gents,
      I don't have the time nor the patience to split this thread and move the political comments to some other forum and leave the "Life After Ben..." stuff in this thread. If the political debate continues I'll move the entire thread which is unfortunate because life after Ben is something that is relevant to a Steeler discussion board. I'll leave it up to you for a bit and we'll see how it goes.

      Pappy
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      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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      • Northern_Blitz
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 24382

        Originally posted by papillon
        Ladies and gents,
        I don't have the time nor the patience to split this thread and move the political comments to some other forum and leave the "Life After Ben..." stuff in this thread. If the political debate continues I'll move the entire thread which is unfortunate because life after Ben is something that is relevant to a Steeler discussion board. I'll leave it up to you for a bit and we'll see how it goes.

        Pappy
        Thanks for the post Pappy.

        Hopefully we can take it on ourselves to make off-topic posts for off-topic stuff.

        Not sure it helps, but I made a link here in case people want to move the non-Steelers stuff from this thread to the "general" discussion.

        Made this and I'll drop a link in other threads in case people want to move off topic discussions out of the Steelers area.
        Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 11-18-2019, 06:35 PM.

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        • Oh wow
          Hall of Famer
          • Mar 2019
          • 2753

          Back on topic folks.

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          • Eich
            Legend
            • Jul 2010
            • 7078

            Originally posted by Oh wow
            Back on topic folks.
            Yes. And right now, I'm feeling that life after Ben is rather bad until Rudolph shows me otherwise. Hopefully this weekend!

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            • Oh wow
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2019
              • 2753

              Originally posted by Eich
              Yes. And right now, I'm feeling that life after Ben is rather bad until Rudolph shows me otherwise. Hopefully this weekend!
              Life after Ben keeps getting worse with Rudolph. I really think the concussion has done more damage than we may want to admit.

              He looks terrible right now and I’m losing the little bit of faith I had in him.

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              • Oh wow
                Hall of Famer
                • Mar 2019
                • 2753

                Life after Ben wasn’t bad.

                Life after Ben, Conner, Snell, Tuitt, JuJu, Dionte Johnson, Nix...

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                • Eich
                  Legend
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 7078

                  Originally posted by Oh wow
                  Life after Ben keeps getting worse with Rudolph. I really think the concussion has done more damage than we may want to admit.

                  He looks terrible right now and I’m losing the little bit of faith I had in him.
                  Very possible the concussion has something to do with it. He was knocked out cold. That was one of the worse I've seen.

                  You do wonder the extent of damage concussions can do. I know that AB was always a head-case but it wasn't until after the Burfict hit that he really came unglued. Could it have anything to do with that or just coincidence? Who knows.

                  Now is when it would be nice to have a veteran backup rather than a rookie. It was nice when we had Charlie Batch as the backup. We could really use our Nick Foles about now.

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                  • Eich
                    Legend
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 7078

                    Originally posted by Oh wow
                    Life after Ben wasn’t bad.

                    Life after Ben, Conner, Snell, Tuitt, JuJu, Dionte Johnson, Nix...
                    And throw in that Pouncey forgot how to snap and AV was getting embarrassed against the Clowns.

                    The offense has become a real mess.

                    The number of injuries, including to Rudolph, is stunning.

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                    • Northern_Blitz
                      Legend
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 24382

                      Originally posted by Oh wow
                      Life after Ben keeps getting worse with Rudolph. I really think the concussion has done more damage than we may want to admit.

                      He looks terrible right now and I’m losing the little bit of faith I had in him.
                      Not sure it's the concussion.

                      Many have talked about the game against the Rams as being among his best even if it didn't get the results.

                      I think he's just not all that good (right now at least).

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                      • Oh wow
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 2753

                        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                        Not sure it's the concussion.

                        Many have talked about the game against the Rams as being among his best even if it didn't get the results.

                        I think he's just not all that good (right now at least).
                        I don’t think he was all that impressive vs Rams. He didn’t give the game away but it wasn’t a game that made me think Mason has turned the corner.

                        It was another “glad the D played lights out” observation.

                        I’m just not seeing the throws I would expect from Mason at this point in the season.

                        I know the WR’s dropped a few but still, he didn’t play a strong game vs the Rams.

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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          personally, I think the offense itself needs to have an overhaul for MR. They need an offense that limits his reads and gets the ball out on time and in rhythm. Of course, this requires WRs to get open for MR, which seems to be a struggle as well. MR should never be in a 5 wide, no back, no TE look, never ever, he can't deal with the pressure that the defense will bring. He should always have a back in to pick up a blitzing player, whether it be a LB, safety or CB. He needs help, Fichtner has to give it to him in the form of an offense that at least gives him a chance to succeed. He may be a football junkie and know what to do because he studies but at this point, he is incapable of taking that knowledge and putting it into action during a game, the game happens faster on the field than it does on a projected image on the wall.

                          Pappy
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                          The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                          1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                          3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                          3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                          4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                          5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                          7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                          "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                          • Ernie
                            Legend
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 8470

                            Originally posted by Oh wow
                            Life after Ben wasn’t bad.

                            Life after Ben, Conner, Snell, Tuitt, JuJu, Dionte Johnson, Nix...
                            dont forget Samuels. He was out for an extended period after Ben went down.

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                            • The Man of Steel
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 2241

                              Originally posted by Oh wow
                              Life after Ben keeps getting worse with Rudolph. I really think the concussion has done more damage than we may want to admit.

                              He looks terrible right now and I’m losing the little bit of faith I had in him.
                              While everyone else is calling for Devlin Hodges to start I’m gonna be one of the first Steelers fans to say that I am ready for the Paxton Lynch era to begin.
                              Obviously the standard is the standard.

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                              • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 10287

                                I'd have to go back and look (which I'm not going to do) but it seems by my recollection that there are many passes going to the RBs on check downs, but I don't remember many set screens - where the RB (or maybe TE or WR) is set as the primary receiver on a quick screen. This was often called for Ben, it would bring up the D early, and give him more room downfield later in the game. Could it be because the D is all already so close to the line? There are other ways to get the ball out of the QB's hand quicker, just have to figure out that way.

                                If we have noticed that MR has looked awful in the pocket then stop putting him in the pocket for every pass. Quick hitters or roll outs should at least be tried. If you can't pull the D away from the line at least make them spread out instead of letting them stand so close to the middle of the LOS. That would help open up the running game as well.
                                Last edited by steeler_fan_in_t.o.; 11-19-2019, 11:50 AM.
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