Life after Ben isn’t so bad

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  • Captain Lemming
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    • Jun 2008
    • 16063

    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    Racism is bias based on the idea of the SUPERIORITY of one race over another.
    It is more than bias.

    How specifically has bi-racial, raised in a loving white family, Kaepernick done that?



    Family pick with the beloved parents who raised him.
    BTW, ONE WAY racism has been frequently demonstrated in sports is the notion that some races lack the mental capacity or leadership skills to be quality coaches and QB's.
    I dont see Kaepernick doing that.

    Again how SPECIFICALLY has Colin been racist?
    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 11-18-2019, 01:11 PM.
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    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

    TCFCLTC-
    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    • Captain Lemming
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      • Jun 2008
      • 16063

      Originally posted by Oh wow
      Yup. Probably how people end up calling Tomlin a POS for being a HC.
      Yes whatever, I can understand criticism of some.
      There IS a legitimate football basis for being critical.

      But why the level of venom?
      Last edited by Captain Lemming; 11-18-2019, 01:09 PM.
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • whatever
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        • Sep 2019
        • 5795

        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
        BTW whatever, try hearing his stories about his parents having to defend him against racial taunts they heard because people did not know he was their son.
        His mom had to tell people off at baseball games when he was a kid because of their comments.

        Adopted, loved dearly by his family but constantly reminded he was "different" in his mostly white community.
        That stuff shapes a kid, you have no idea why he is so obsessed with issues of racial inequities.

        Dude might be oversensitive in the eyes of many. Can you not see how that might happen?

        And YOU accuse HIM of racism?

        DUDE IS BI-RACIAL.
        You would think that being bi-racial, as you say, or being raised by white parents, he would care about the police shooting white people too.
        How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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        • hawaiiansteel
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          • May 2008
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          • Oh wow
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2019
            • 2753

            Originally posted by whatever
            You would think that being bi-racial, as you say, or being raised by white parents, he would care about the police shooting white people too.
            He doesn’t look or identify as white.

            and that’s like asking why a cancer march doesn’t support lupus.

            or why MLK didn’t march for white peoples injustices.

            Stop asking why Kap isn’t doing XYZ and go do it yourself if it’s something you believe in.

            Trust me, I think more people who look like you SHOULD speak up when cops are out of like instead of defending bad behavior.

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            • whatever
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              • Sep 2019
              • 5795

              Originally posted by Oh wow
              He doesn’t look or identify as white.

              and that’s like asking why a cancer march doesn’t support lupus.

              or why MLK didn’t march for white peoples injustices.

              Stop asking why Kap isn’t doing XYZ and go do it yourself if it’s something you believe in.

              Trust me, I think more people who look like you SHOULD speak up when cops are out of like instead of defending bad behavior.
              When did I defend bad cop behavior?
              Or is that part of the 'battle cry'?
              The vast majority of the time the 'bad behavior' is fabricated anyway.

              I thought MLK fought for civil rights for ALL people
              Last edited by whatever; 11-18-2019, 01:48 PM.
              How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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              • Oh wow
                Hall of Famer
                • Mar 2019
                • 2753

                Originally posted by whatever

                I thought MLK fought for civil rights for ALL people
                Sure he did..

                Whatever makes you guys feel better about MLK is cool by me.

                Most folks recite 3 lines of MLK’s speech but miss the venom in the rest of the speech.

                But like I said, you feel some people who look like you are being treated unfairly. By all means, go out and protest or march for their rights.

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                • Buzz
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                  • Dec 2017
                  • 8405

                  Originally posted by Oh wow
                  He doesn’t look or identify as white.

                  and that’s like asking why a cancer march doesn’t support lupus.

                  or why MLK didn’t march for white peoples injustices.

                  Stop asking why Kap isn’t doing XYZ and go do it yourself if it’s something you believe in.

                  Trust me, I think more people who look like you SHOULD speak up when cops are out of like instead of defending bad behavior.
                  There is no defense for bad behavior. But how about someone defending the 99.5% of cops who are good, in order to counter those who want to project the behavior of the bad .5% on all officers?

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                  • Oh wow
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 2753

                    Originally posted by Buzz
                    There is no defense for bad behavior. But how about someone defending the 99.5% of cops who are good, in order to counter those who want to project the behavior of the bad .5% on all officers?
                    I’m not sure I understand your point.

                    I’m a good father. I have no problem when bad or deadbeat fathers are put on blast for their crappy behavior.

                    What you are suggesting is cover for the bad cops by bringing up good cops.

                    Why is it every time the discussion of police brutality comes up people want to change the discussion to good cops. Thats some “good people on both sides” distraction if I ever seen it.

                    But you bring up a good point. All I will say is I’m a law abiding citizen, why have I had over 10 encounters with cops trying to pin crimes on me that I haven’t committed in my lifetime?
                    Last edited by Oh wow; 11-18-2019, 02:28 PM.

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                    • Eddie Spaghetti
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                      • Jul 2008
                      • 4123

                      maybe the "good" cops should speak out more when the see they see piss poor behavior by their own

                      thin blue line and all that

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                      • Oh wow
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 2753

                        Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                        maybe the "good" cops should speak out more when the see they see piss poor behavior by their own

                        thin blue line and all that
                        Thank you. I was going to post this but then deleted it.

                        These so called good cops RARELY report bad behavior when they witness it.

                        There is a cop in Baltimore who was getting ready to testify against some shady cops. He was “killed” with his own gun when his partner crossed the street and didn’t see how it happened.

                        The blue wall is real.

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                        • Buzz
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                          • Dec 2017
                          • 8405

                          Originally posted by Oh wow
                          I’m not sure I understand your point.

                          I’m a good father. I have no problem when bad or deadbeat fathers are put on blast for their crappy behavior.

                          What you are suggesting is cover for the bad cops by bringing up good cops.
                          Not at all. You punish the bad cops for bad behavior. But you can do that without villifying all cops and the whole system, and inciting people to disrespect and tear down the entire social order.

                          Originally posted by Oh wow
                          Why is it every time the discussion of police brutality comes up people want to change the discussion to good cops. Thats some “good people on both sides” distraction if I ever seen it.
                          I'm not changing the discussion. I'm getting to the real goal that Kaepernick and many of his ilk are aiming for. He's given us a lot of clues ... the pig socks ... the Fidel Castro shirt ... the Kunta Kinte shirt ... it ain't about fighting police brutality.

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                          • Buzz
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                            • Dec 2017
                            • 8405

                            Originally posted by Oh wow
                            Thank you. I was going to post this but then deleted it.

                            These so called good cops RARELY report bad behavior when they witness it.

                            There is a cop in Baltimore who was getting ready to testify against some shady cops. He was “killed” with his own gun when his partner crossed the street and didn’t see how it happened.

                            The blue wall is real.
                            Not sure you have the evidence to back up this generalization. Hint: you might need more than just the one example from Baltimore.

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                            • Eich
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                              • Jul 2010
                              • 7078

                              On the original topic of this thread.... funny how one game can change perspective. I was somewhat in agreement with "life after Ben isn't so bad". But after the Clowns game, my perspective changed somewhat.

                              Rudolph may improve but I haven't really seen anything from him that is exciting. Nothing I can point to that he's really strong with. It's hard to say what his ceiling is.

                              Then I start thinking about what life BEFORE Ben was like. That was an awfully dismal period of quarterbacking, outside of the shattered hopes that a few guys like Kordell, O'Donnell and maybe Maddox gave.

                              Hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Rudolph as the answer to life after Ben.

                              And now we have to swallow watching Lamarr Jackson tearing up the NFL in Ratbird land. I guess better them than the cheaters.

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                              • Buzz
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                                • Dec 2017
                                • 8405

                                Originally posted by Eich
                                On the original topic of this thread.... funny how one game can change perspective. I was somewhat in agreement with "life after Ben isn't so bad". But after the Clowns game, my perspective changed somewhat.

                                Rudolph may improve but I haven't really seen anything from him that is exciting. Nothing I can point to that he's really strong with. It's hard to say what his ceiling is.

                                Then I start thinking about what life BEFORE Ben was like. That was an awfully dismal period of quarterbacking, outside of the shattered hopes that a few guys like Kordell, O'Donnell and maybe Maddox gave.

                                Hope I'm wrong, but I don't see Rudolph as the answer to life after Ben.

                                And now we have to swallow watching Lamarr Jackson tearing up the NFL in Ratbird land. I guess better them than the cheaters.
                                Top two teams on the enemies list.

                                With Jackson just getting started, it's conceivable that the Ravens might be good for quite a while.

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