Just sayin...

[ikestops85]

Read my above post. No shouting needed.

If what you were claiming were true about how great the defense was, we’d have made it to a super bowl or two in the last 8 years. But we didn’t.

So your stats don’t tell the whole story. That’s why you’ve chosen to deflect when I’ve cornered you with the truth. What you say and what has happened don’t match up.

So now you say I’m shouting?? Not needed. Just the facts are needed my friend.

We had one of the top 3-4 offenses in the league and your saying our defense was great too?? So where were the super bowl appearances in the last 8 years??

Doesn’t add up son. Doesn’t add up.

Please see my signature for what those great defenses did for us the last eight years in the post season. Because we know we’ve had offense. We know that!

Thanks for proving my point. Not a single thing to back up your argument except for your word. A top 3 or 4 offense? That's according to you. Now if you look for the facts please visit nfl.com. Here is how they have our offense ranked for the last 8 years

2011 - 12th
2012 - 21st
2013 - 20th
2014 - 2nd
2015 - 3rd
2016 - 7th
2017 - 3rd
2018 - 4th

Now if you look at scoring, which is really what counts, here are the Steeler rankings.

2011 - 21st
2012 - 22nd
2013 - 16th
2014 - 7th
2015 - 4th
2016 - 10th
2017 - 8th
2018 - 6th

Just once in the last 8 years were we in the top 4 in offense.

Now, these are facts that I have posted. How do you feel you've "proven" that we have had a top 2 or 3 offense in the last 8 years? You haven't!! All you have done is all you ever do. You pontificate something that is floating around in your head with nothing to back it up. I'm telling you that you post like the President tweets. Just BS with no substance.

and please show me where I've said we have had a great defense lately. I haven't because our defense has been mediocre at best for the last 4 or 5 years. So once again you've just made something up. More BS.

So who really deflects when cornered with the truth? I think you are king at that.

[Steel Maniac]

Thanks for proving my point. Not a single thing to back up your argument except for your word. A top 3 or 4 offense? That's according to you. Now if you look for the facts please visit nfl.com. Here is how they have our offense ranked for the last 8 years

2011 - 12th
2012 - 21st
2013 - 20th
2014 - 2nd
2015 - 3rd
2016 - 7th
2017 - 3rd
2018 - 4th

Now if you look at scoring, which is really what counts, here are the Steeler rankings.

2011 - 21st
2012 - 22nd
2013 - 16th
2014 - 7th
2015 - 4th
2016 - 10th
2017 - 8th
2018 - 6th

Just once in the last 8 years were we in the top 4 in offense.

Now, these are facts that I have posted. How do you feel you've "proven" that we have had a top 2 or 3 offense in the last 8 years? You haven't!! All you have done is all you ever do. You pontificate something that is floating around in your head with nothing to back it up. I'm telling you that you post like the President tweets. Just BS with no substance.

and please show me where I've said we have had a great defense lately. I haven't because our defense has been mediocre at best for the last 4 or 5 years. So once again you've just made something up. More BS.

So who really deflects when cornered with the truth? I think you are king at that.

Please see my signature to back up my argument. Stop all your crying .. we don’t have enough tissue.
None of your argument is supported by actual outcomes. None.

Again, please see my signature statements. They sum it up.

[Steel Maniac]

Ikestop, you run around moaning, crying and bleeding and always shouting.

Nothing you say or have can dispute that what I say matches the outcomes . What you bring are things that don’t match our playoff results.

[Oh wow]

More shouting. Smh.

[Steel Maniac]

That's your interpretation Oh wow. I'm not shouting at all. That's the problem with you TTT's; no one is shouting at you at all. In case your not up on posting etiquette, when people shout, they capitalize words back to back to back. You don't see me doing that at all.

There is no shouting needed when people post data that doesn't match the outcomes.

[Steel Maniac]

More shouting. Smh.

And why was your "feltdizz" name banned again? hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha. And yes, you've already admitted earlier that your really Feltdizz. So stop the denying it. You admitted it to Cap and I earlier.

[Oh wow]

And why was your "feltdizz" name banned again? hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha. And yes, you've already admitted earlier that your really Feltdizz. So stop the denying it. You admitted it to Cap and I earlier.

If you can’t debate the topic you just shout and deflect.

Just take the L and move on.

[Mr.wizard]

Steel Maniac has lost his mind, he just told Ikestops85 that none of the Stats that he posted is supported by outcomes. Of course the stats are based on outcomes that is the only thing they could be based on.

[Northern_Blitz]

Thanks for proving my point. Not a single thing to back up your argument except for your word. A top 3 or 4 offense? That's according to you. Now if you look for the facts please visit nfl.com. Here is how they have our offense ranked for the last 8 years

2011 - 12th
2012 - 21st
2013 - 20th
2014 - 2nd
2015 - 3rd
2016 - 7th
2017 - 3rd
2018 - 4th

Now if you look at scoring, which is really what counts, here are the Steeler rankings.

2011 - 21st
2012 - 22nd
2013 - 16th
2014 - 7th
2015 - 4th
2016 - 10th
2017 - 8th
2018 - 6th

Just once in the last 8 years were we in the top 4 in offense.

Now, these are facts that I have posted. How do you feel you've "proven" that we have had a top 2 or 3 offense in the last 8 years? You haven't!! All you have done is all you ever do. You pontificate something that is floating around in your head with nothing to back it up. I'm telling you that you post like the President tweets. Just BS with no substance.

and please show me where I've said we have had a great defense lately. I haven't because our defense has been mediocre at best for the last 4 or 5 years. So once again you've just made something up. More BS.

So who really deflects when cornered with the truth? I think you are king at that.

Real fantasy football players know that team stats don't matter... Only individual stats help them bring home their most coveted trophies.

Edited to add: On a serious note, I think lots of people overestimated the talent of many Steelers teams because they had three very good Fantasy Football options in Ben, Bell, and AB.

[Northern_Blitz]

Maniac has been posting about how he / she was providing a legit interpretation of Ruthless's posts about Conner.

Many disagree because Maniac frequently mischaracterizes previous posts without providing any link to the original info.

I don't have the quote from Ruthless, but here's an example of Maniac mischaracterizing on of his / her own posts (in conversation with me).

I was reading through an old post about Squidkid's playoff expectations and found the quote Maniac asked me to provide in this thread.

The initial few posts are all from this thread:

This doesn't make sense.

He's under contract for at least two more seasons after this one (and then another as an option...but we don't know who's option).

This year might be a season where he's on notice that he might be on notice sometime in the next few years.

I think your prediction of him being fired after last season or this one will miss the mark.

Makes plenty of sense; me and other Steeler fans talk about it all the time out here. And again, please stop making up stuff about what I said. I predicted he'd be on the hot seat last year, and he is. And I'm predicting THIS will be his last year.

Regardless, we will not win another super bowl with Tomlin as our head coach. So..why delay the inevitable?

Wait... Your saying in lying about you saying he'd be fired last year or this year because you're only saying he'll be fired / traded I guess this year (without the possibility of him being fired last year)?

K

I'll drop this link in my sig too so I don't have to hunt for it later.

....

Here's a real prediction (since that seems to be what your looking for) you can qoute me:

The Pittsburgh Steelers will not win another Super Bowl with Mike Tomlin as the head coach.

THAT....is my official prediction. So him still being the coach is delaying us from where we want to go.

So now you can run and tell that Steel Maniac said that. LOL

*** to help you get what I say correct, I'll update my signature with that to help your memory.

You've made this prediction before too.

I'll say the same thing I did then: it's always a smart bet to take the field over any one team.

Then quote me on what I've said and not make up stuff on me.

It's a bit of a pain to find things in old threads, but I happened on the quote Maniac was asking for. For the record (at the beginning of last off season early March):

When Tomlin is dismissed ( either after this year or next) you and he can have that bogus chart to comfort you through the night. Lol

http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48742-Rooney-Brown-meeting/page24

This quote is taken verbatim from the link above. Again, Maniac misrepresents quotes from the past. This time it was his / her own post.

This begs the question: If Maniac can't even remember / interpret / tell the truth about his / her own previous posts correctly, how can anyone be expected to believe his / her interpretation of someone else's posts?

[Steel Maniac]

Maniac has been posting about how he / she was providing a legit interpretation of Ruthless's posts about Conner.

Many disagree because Maniac frequently mischaracterizes previous posts without providing any link to the original info.

I don't have the quote from Ruthless, but here's an example of Maniac mischaracterizing on of his / her own posts (in conversation with me).

I was reading through an old post about Squidkid's playoff expectations and found the quote Maniac asked me to provide in this thread.

The initial few posts are all from this thread:









For the record (at the beginning of last off season):

http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48742-Rooney-Brown-meeting/page24

This quote is taken verbatim from the link above. Again, Maniac misrepresents quotes from the past. This time it was his / her own post.

This begs the question: If Maniac can't even remember / interpret / tell the truth about his / her own previous posts correctly, how can anyone be expected to believe his / her interpretation of someone else's posts?

Here we go again. Spin, spin , spin. My God.. hahahaha.

North , you can twist any and everything that I say that you want. You can use your feeble attempts to try and discredit me all you want.

You know my opinions on Tomlin; that he’s not really a big time winner. And that his last 8 years have proven that out.

It’s just amazing how the posters who love Tomlin relentlessly go after those who don’t.

You are not going to change the minds of those who don’t care for Tomlin; just like people who don’t care for Tomlin are not going to change your mind.

And that’s okay; so what’s wrong with having a different opinion??

Time will bear witness to who’s been right and who’s been wrong. Time will always tell the truth.

So why can’t the Tomlin lovers and the Tomlin disbelievers just be civil and enjoy the process???

[Steel Maniac]

Maniac has been posting about how he / she was providing a legit interpretation of Ruthless's posts about Conner.

Many disagree because Maniac frequently mischaracterizes previous posts without providing any link to the original info.

I don't have the quote from Ruthless, but here's an example of Maniac mischaracterizing on of his / her own posts (in conversation with me).

I was reading through an old post about Squidkid's playoff expectations and found the quote Maniac asked me to provide in this thread.

The initial few posts are all from this thread:




It's a bit of a pain to find things in old threads, but I happened on the quote Maniac was asking for. For the record (at the beginning of last off season early March):

http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48742-Rooney-Brown-meeting/page24

This quote is taken verbatim from the link above. Again, Maniac misrepresents quotes from the past. This time it was his / her own post.

This begs the question: If Maniac can't even remember / interpret / tell the truth about his / her own previous posts correctly, how can anyone be expected to believe his / her interpretation of someone else's posts?

Do me a favor everyone, please read the entire poster threads and not just what he tells you to read. To get the full context of ALL things said. Gzzzz

[Northern_Blitz]

Do me a favor everyone, please read the entire poster threads and not just what he tells you to read. To get the full context of ALL things said. Gzzzz

Reading the full thread is a great idea.

I think everyone should do that.

I think Maniac responded to my post before I finished copying all the info into it, so it's more fleshed out than it was. But I provided a link (something some poster's don't do) to show where the info came from. I don't think I'm misrepresenting what Maniac said, but anyone can judge for themselves with the link provided.

See how this works Maniac?

Another good example of Maniac misrepresenting what others have said in the past can be found in the post below (first link in my sig). In that post, I also posted all information I thought was relevant from the previous post as well as gave links to where they could be found.

https://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/48851-Poll-Question-for-Everyone/page14

[Northern_Blitz]

Maniac, If IkeStop85 doesn't mind, I will throw in my participation in the board this year to IkeStop85's original bet.

http://www.planetsteelers.com/forums/showthread.php/49613-Trade-Deadline?p=779828#post779828

If posts exist that show Ruthless saying what you said he did about Conner, I won't post here again (under any user name) until the preseason next year.

If you can't produce the posts in some reasonable time frame (maybe 2 weeks?), you refrain from posting under any username until the preseason next year.

With IkeStop85 and I both participating, that's two to one odds. I know you like odds that are in your favor because you want to take the field in the discussion above. How about it?

[Steel Maniac]

North, your doing a lot of work for nothing IMO.

Can I ask you a question??

Why does my what I say about Tomlin bother you so much? What you say about Tomlin doesn’t bother me.