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  • Mr.wizard
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    • May 2014
    • 6617

    #46
    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    Nooooo..he was a no name nobody. Then later he became Mike Tomlin.

    Ernie has made the point I've been saying. The inner circle of coaches and GM's know who the up and comers are. We as fans don't.
    Colbert can and will put in the due diligence to find the proper (good) guy for the HC position.

    Teams who keep wanting retread coaches from other teams seldom find the success they are looking for.
    Yessss, he was Mike Tomlin when we hired him that is a fact. I'm pretty sure his birth certificate didnt change from "Nobody" to " Mike Tomlin" once we hired him.

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    • Starlifter
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 5025

      #47
      Even when I thought we'd have Ben for the first 5 games - I had us at 2-3. Our schedule this year was formidable - even at full strength.
      2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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      • NorthCoast
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        • Sep 2008
        • 26227

        #48
        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
        I don't know; we've been pretty good at it so far. I trust in Colbert. Im not factoring in other teams failure track record in regards to finding a good head coach into our finding a good head coach. Most of those organizations are garbage and ours isn't.
        That's the irony of your position. You trust the org to find the next great head coach, but you don't trust them with staying with their current choice.

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        • Steel Maniac
          Banned
          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #49
          Originally posted by NorthCoast
          That's the irony of your position. You trust the org to find the next great head coach, but you don't trust them with staying with their current choice.
          What irony? The organization gave him only a one year extension; basically putting him on notice. There not all in his corner either. When you are confident in a guy, you give him a three year extension. This was a “ prove it to me “ season.

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #50
            Originally posted by papillon
            If teams track the up and comers why do so many teams hire retread head coaches that have failed more than once? Woldn't you think if they knew who the new young bright football minds were they would hire one of them?

            Pappy
            Because most organizations in this league don’t know what to look for in a new coach. So they take the easy way out by hiring retread. It’s the easy way out. But the majority don’t give them the success they think there going to get.

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            • Oh wow
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2019
              • 2753

              #51
              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
              What irony? The organization gave him only a one year extension; basically putting him on notice. There not all in his corner either. When you are confident in a guy, you give him a three year extension. This was a “ prove it to me “ season.
              Nah. You were always talking like Tomlin didn’t have any years left on his contract before he was extended last season.

              He had a few years left on his contract before we extended him.

              When a coach has 12 years or so with a team it’s not a prove it year to sign him thru 2021 with an option.

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              • Mr.wizard
                Legend
                • May 2014
                • 6617

                #52
                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                What irony? The organization gave him only a one year extension; basically putting him on notice. There not all in his corner either. When you are confident in a guy, you give him a three year extension. This was a “ prove it to me “ season.
                Its ironic because you have been telling us what a terrible coach Mike Tomlin is and then you turn around and say our organization is good at finding good coaches. Please stop with this notion of a "prove it deal" he has been our coach going on 13 years. Mike Tomlin would get a fortune on the open market he doesnt have to take a "prove it deal".

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                • JGRedDog
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 27

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                  He was Mike Tomlin.
                  Exactly, nobody had even heard of this guy. Same for Bill Cowher. It's a bad argument. I'm not content with regular season trophies, they don't exist. Hey that almost sounds like a Tomlin quote!

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                  • JGRedDog
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 27

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Moonie
                    I think any objective person would think it is FAR from obvious that Harbaugh is a better coach than Tomlin.

                    By the way, all these coaches, in fact nearly everyone ever associated with the NFL is a fountain of cliches. I think they send them all to some special school to learn how to repeat them.
                    Didn't Harbaugh win a SB with Joe Flacco??? He also spanked the Pats in the AFC Championship that year. Can any Steeler fan honestly picture Tomlin doing that? I sure can't. Don't think he'd even win a playoff game with that superstar QB.

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                    • SteelerOfDeVille
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 9065

                      #55
                      Originally posted by whatever
                      Man, if only this team would have been loaded with talent and healthy the last 6-8 years. Imagine all the playoffs wins and super bowls ....
                      Oh, nevermind
                      too bad they shipped off Arians...
                      2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                      • Oh wow
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 2753

                        #56
                        Originally posted by JGRedDog
                        Exactly, nobody had even heard of this guy. Same for Bill Cowher. It's a bad argument. I'm not content with regular season trophies, they don't exist. Hey that almost sounds like a Tomlin quote!
                        I think it goes to show how little fans know about coaches and how they are viewed around the league.

                        The guys in Tampa knew about Mike, the guys in Minnesota knew about him too.

                        He’s won a lot of games and been to 2 SB’s.

                        This idea that Tomlin doesn’t know what he is doing is silly talk.

                        Makes people wonder if there are other reasons they want Mike Tomlin gone.

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                        • Northern_Blitz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 23985

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          What irony? The organization gave him only a one year extension; basically putting him on notice. There not all in his corner either. When you are confident in a guy, you give him a three year extension. This was a “ prove it to me “ season.
                          This doesn't make sense.

                          He's under contract for at least two more seasons after this one (and then another as an option...but we don't know who's option).

                          This year might be a season where he's on notice that he might be on notice sometime in the next few years.

                          I think your prediction of him being fired after last season or this one will miss the mark.
                          Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 10-10-2019, 09:58 AM.

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                            This doesn't make sense.

                            He's under contract for at least two more seasons after this one (and then another as an option...but we don't know who's option).

                            This year might be a season where he's on notice that he might be on notice sometime in the next few years.

                            I think your prediction of him being fired after last season or this one will miss the mark.
                            Makes plenty of sense; me and other Steeler fans talk about it all the time out here. And again, please stop making up stuff about what I said. I predicted he'd be on the hot seat last year, and he is. And I'm predicting THIS will be his last year.

                            Regardless, we will not win another super bowl with Tomlin as our head coach. So..why delay the inevitable?

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                            • Steel Maniac
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 19472

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                              This doesn't make sense.

                              He's under contract for at least two more seasons after this one (and then another as an option...but we don't know who's option).

                              This year might be a season where he's on notice that he might be on notice sometime in the next few years.

                              I think your prediction of him being fired after last season or this one will miss the mark.
                              Here's a real prediction (since that seems to be what your looking for) you can qoute me:

                              The Pittsburgh Steelers will not win another Super Bowl with Mike Tomlin as the head coach.

                              THAT....is my official prediction. So him still being the coach is delaying us from where we want to go.

                              So now you can run and tell that Steel Maniac said that. LOL

                              *** to help you get what I say correct, I'll update my signature with that to help your memory.
                              Last edited by Steel Maniac; 10-10-2019, 10:42 AM.

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                              • JGRedDog
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 27

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Oh wow
                                I think it goes to show how little fans know about coaches and how they are viewed around the league.

                                The guys in Tampa knew about Mike, the guys in Minnesota knew about him too.

                                HeÂ’s won a lot of games and been to 2 SBÂ’s.

                                This idea that Tomlin doesnÂ’t know what he is doing is silly talk.

                                Makes people wonder if there are other reasons they want Mike Tomlin gone.
                                So you're essentially agreeing with me that there are a number of coaches out there that would make good or even great head coaches that most fans aren't familiar with.

                                I don't honestly care how other coaches are viewed around the league, there are so many poorly coached and managed NFL teams these days. Not to mention the constant recycling of coaches. Coaches can do a poor job with one team and when they are fired they are hired the next day by another team.

                                Mike Tomlin had one year of experience as a coordinator at the NFL level before he was hired as head coach, not many fans were familiar with him when he was hired. You can even think Tomlin has done a good job as head coach and still think it's time for a change, it's OK.

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