Washington Wants Tomlin

[Oh wow]

I'm not one of the people who wants Tomlin gone at all costs. But, you could make that argument about pretty much anything. Hardly any single thing was ever definitively the reason we lost a game. But all bad things add up. There was a reason the team hired someone to help Tomlin with challenges and clock management.

and how is that working out?

Maybe, just maybe.. that person we hired also didn’t think it was a good idea to stop the clock.

What if stopping the clock helped the Chargers kicker get a few more practice reps and he makes the kick?

What if the Chargers use our time out to rethink kicking and they go for it, convert and score?

Just seems silly to try and make the decision to kneel down as a big reason something bad might happen in the second half or in a game somewhere down the line.

I swear, up 21.. 3rd string QB, we get the ball to start the second half and this is considered a big deal?

Truly shows how desperate some folks are to bash Tomlin.

[phillyesq]

I know this sort of moderation is generally discouraged, but is it possible to say that Tomlin made the right decision regarding the clock at the end of the first half (I think he did, and it isn't close) but also hoping that Washington gives us a Gruden-like package of multiple first and second round picks for him?

[Northern_Blitz]

I'm not one of the people who wants Tomlin gone at all costs. But, you could make that argument about pretty much anything. Hardly any single thing was ever definitively the reason we lost a game. But all bad things add up. There was a reason the team hired someone to help Tomlin with challenges and clock management.

I am a big fan of hiring a time management guy (although I think it should be an analytics person and not a traditional football coach). I think most coaches make the same kind of "mistakes" Tomlin does with timeouts because being an NFL coach is hard.

But, I think many of the things I've seen people complain about are probably coin flip type decisions instead of legit blunders (like the decision to kick in the BAL game, or whether we should have tried to preserve some time in the first half against the Chargers).

Some of the other things people complain about are things that I'm pretty sure actually increased our chance to win the game (like the onside kick against the Jags). I think these kind of complaints originate from the commentators who often don't recognize good decisions when they go against tradition.

[Northern_Blitz]

I know this sort of moderation is generally discouraged, but is it possible to say that Tomlin made the right decision regarding the clock at the end of the first half (I think he did, and it isn't close) but also hoping that Washington gives us a Gruden-like package of multiple first and second round picks for him?

This is where I am on a Tomlin trade.

I don't think Washington is dumb enough to give up that much though...but you never know with Snyder.

[Oh wow]

Tomlin trade isn’t happening.

Only way Tomlin leaves is if he wants to get really rich and have more power.

Problem is once you leave Washington you ha e to work your way back up because that franchise is brutal on HC’s.

[Eich]

and how is that working out?

Apparently pretty well, according to some of the justifications in this thread.

[Oh wow]

Apparently pretty well, according to some of the justifications in this thread.

What if the new hire is advising Tomlin on these calls they disagree with? LOL

[NJ-STEELER]

You have tje Chargers stopped they are running their kicking team on the field. We on earth would you call a timeout to help them out or possibly even think about going for it. Played perfectly by Tomlin.

I had no doubt you and the TBW thought that

[Captain Lemming]

I know this sort of moderation is generally discouraged, but is it possible to say that Tomlin made the right decision regarding the clock at the end of the first half (I think he did, and it isn't close) but also hoping that Washington gives us a Gruden-like package of multiple first and second round picks for him?

I like Tomlin but if Snyder is talkin......I'm listening.

I DONT CARE WHAT HE WANTS from us......I'm listening.

When Snyder wants something.....one thing we know......he WILL overpay.

[Steel Maniac]

I like Tomlin but if Snyder is talkin......I'm listening.

I DONT CARE WHAT HE WANTS from us......I'm listening.

When Snyder wants something.....one thing we know......he WILL overpay.

Yes....If we can gouge Snyder, by all means, let's do it. Everybody else has over the last 20 years.

[Steel Maniac]

It’s awkward to look at mock drafts and don’t see us in the first round.

[pfelix73]

It’s awkward to look at mock drafts and don’t see us in the first round.

I'm sure if they see someone they covet in the lower end of the 1st round, they could make a trade and move up.

[The Man of Steel]

Sure...just let me know who you are replacing him with that will give you the second best win percentage in the NFL over a decade.

I'd love to hear all the names who would be an upgrade

P.J. Fleck

[Oh wow]

P.J. Fleck

A hot college coach? Yeah, those usually work out well in the NFL.

[Northern_Blitz]

P.J. Fleck

I don't really follow college football. Why do you think he'd be an upgrade at HC?

A very quick look at his resume doesn't seem super impressive to me (admittedly not knowing the context):
- His NCAA regular season record is worse than Tomlin's NFL regular season record.
- His record in bowl games is worse then Tomlin's NFL playoff record (although it's only a 4 game sample, so it probably doesn't mean all that much).

I think it would also be interesting to see some kind of "success rate" for up an coming NCAA coaches that have moved to the NFL. I bet it's low because success rate for NFL coaches is low to begin with.

I also think someone recently posted that success rate for new coaches in general was bad.