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  • Mr.wizard
    Legend
    • May 2014
    • 6686

    They didnt almost comeback because we didnt press at the end of the half. The INT is what made the game close. Who really cares though your on the road with a 3rd string QB you dont chase after points when your up three touchdowns.

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    • Oh wow
      Hall of Famer
      • Mar 2019
      • 2753

      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
      lol

      they almost tied the game WITH THE WAY YOU WANTED THEM TO GO INTO THE HALF. they came back last year in Heinz with a much tougher task. why would you think 21-0 is a safe lead over them?

      as i said,

      AT THE TIME THE CHARGERS HAD EVERYTHING WRONG GOING FOR THEM.

      getting 1st and goal then moving backwards to miss a FG. how do yo u think that sideline is feeling. they're the ones saying , shoot let's just get to halftime
      that's exactly when you want to try and step on their throat, when they're losing hope


      what's the problem in trying a safe play or 2 to see if the offense can get going for another drive. if they gain nothing on that down or 2, then head into the locker room. there is zero lost in that scenario and you're actually putting ducky in a game situation we might need to have him gain experience for a later time


      PS. i have said tomlin did well in this game despite (what seems to be a weekly) mistake clock management. he should bne learning from them, not committing them week after week
      I thought tomlin doesn't "live in his fears"
      Chargers had everything going wrong and a gunslinger like Duck showed us what can happen when he gets greedy.

      It was the correct call. Especially when we got the ball to start the second half.

      There were much better examples of how you let a team stay in the game in the second half when we didn’t score a TD from the 2 and Duck throwing an INT.

      Sorry, I don’t think you will find anyone anywhere who agrees with your theory.

      The last minute of the first half on the road when up 21 is the worst time to try and get a 3rd string QB experience for later in the season.

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      • Oh wow
        Hall of Famer
        • Mar 2019
        • 2753

        Originally posted by Mr.wizard
        They didnt almost comeback because we didnt press at the end of the half. The INT is what made the game close. Who really cares though your on the road with a 3rd string QB you dont chase after points when your up three touchdowns.
        and get the ball to start the second half.

        Hell, I don’t think 99% of the NFL would chase points with their starting QB in that scenario on the road.

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        • ikestops85
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2008
          • 3724

          I'm often a critic of Mike Tomlin's clock management or lack thereof but I don't even think this time it's worth a discussion.

          I did come across an article today that deals with Jason Garrett. Skip the stuff about Garrett and go right to the chart about coaches and their record against winning teams. It's very interesting.

          The Cowboys lost to an 0-4 Jets team on Sunday, a team they were supposed to dominate. For those hoping Dallas head coach Jason Garrett would be shown the door in short order, they shouldn't be holding their breath. It's more than likely not happening in the middle of…
          As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

          but Go Steelers!!!

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
            Is that what I wrote? I suggest you reread what I wrote.

            People drive themselves insane over any decisions the coaching staff makes because of disappointment and hate. Disappointment clouds people's judgement.

            You are in a difficult position yourself. How can you route for the team to succeed when you hate Tomlin so much?
            Dude, I do not hate Tomlin. He's just a grade "C" coach who's been skating by because of our stable front office that empowered him to be a caretaker. But his time is up. But were not talking about him per say right now.

            What I'm saying is that the way the coaching staff handled the given situations were more then reasonable IMO. I thought they made decent/good decisions overall. How the Chargers made it a bit interesting had more to do with complacency by the team from the top of the 4th quarter on then anything else IMO.

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              Originally posted by Mr.wizard
              They didnt almost comeback because we didnt press at the end of the half. The INT is what made the game close. Who really cares though your on the road with a 3rd string QB you dont chase after points when your up three touchdowns.
              This is how I kinda feel; all things considered ; especially with a 3rd string QB.

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              • papillon
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 11340

                Originally posted by ikestops85
                I'm often a critic of Mike Tomlin's clock management or lack thereof but I don't even think this time it's worth a discussion.

                I did come across an article today that deals with Jason Garrett. Skip the stuff about Garrett and go right to the chart about coaches and their record against winning teams. It's very interesting.

                https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/201...inline-related
                Hmm...in reality, Tomlin is second and only one of 4 or 5 coaches with a winning record against winning teams. Nagy, Reich and McVay haven't coached enough games for it to be a legitimate sample size compared to Belichick, Tomlin, Carroll, Payton and Reid. Tomlin may lose games to teams that he should beat on occasion but he's 50/50 against winning teams and that's better than everyone not named Belichick.

                Pappy
                Last edited by papillon; 10-16-2019, 10:26 AM.
                sigpic

                The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                • Oh wow
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 2753

                  Originally posted by ikestops85
                  I'm often a critic of Mike Tomlin's clock management or lack thereof but I don't even think this time it's worth a discussion.

                  I did come across an article today that deals with Jason Garrett. Skip the stuff about Garrett and go right to the chart about coaches and their record against winning teams. It's very interesting.

                  https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/201...inline-related
                  Interesting... but I guess all those wins were in spite of Tomlin.

                  The only thing Tomlins “owns” are the losses.

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                  • whatever
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 5795

                    Originally posted by papillon
                    Hmm...in reality, Tomlin is second and only one of 4 or 5 coaches with a winning record against winning teams. Nagy, Reich and McVay haven't coached enough games for it to be a legitimate sample size compared to Belichick, Tomlin, Carroll, Payton and Reid. Tomlin may lose games to teams that he should beat on occasion but he's 50/50 against winning teams and that's better than everyone not named Belichick.

                    Pappy
                    Makes his playoff failure that much huger.
                    How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      I’m still hearing that Snyder is going to make the attempt to get Tomlin. I pray to God he succeeds. I’m rubbing my hands together at the good draft picks we may get.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35651

                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        I’m still hearing that Snyder is going to make the attempt to get Tomlin.
                        got a link?

                        if true, that would be tampering...

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                        • Buzz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 8405

                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          got a link?

                          if true, that would be tampering...
                          According to these reports, Snyder really wants Tomlin (seems like Jason LaCanfora is really the fountainhead they all spring from):






                          Of course, he's going to be careful not to violate the league's tampering rules.

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                          • papillon
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 11340

                            Originally posted by whatever
                            Makes his playoff failure that much huger.
                            How so? All it tells you is that if the Steelers under Mike Tomlin play a team with a better than .500 record the Steelers are a 50/50 bet to win or lose the game. Now, some of thise wins came in the playoffs and some losses came in the playoffs but regardless, the Steelers are a 50/50 chance to win against a winning team.

                            Pappy
                            sigpic

                            The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                            1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                            3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                            3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                            4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                            5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                            7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                            "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                            • whatever
                              Legend
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 5795

                              Originally posted by papillon
                              How so? All it tells you is that if the Steelers under Mike Tomlin play a team with a better than .500 record the Steelers are a 50/50 bet to win or lose the game. Now, some of thise wins came in the playoffs and some losses came in the playoffs but regardless, the Steelers are a 50/50 chance to win against a winning team.

                              Pappy
                              Yup, in the regular season, when it really matters.
                              How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                              • Oviedo
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 23824

                                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                                I’m still hearing that Snyder is going to make the attempt to get Tomlin. I pray to God he succeeds. I’m rubbing my hands together at the good draft picks we may get.
                                Quit praying it ain't happening
                                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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