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  • Starlifter
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    • May 2008
    • 5098

    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    Actually that was not uncommon. That is why people hated the turtle. People would say, "but we almost at lost" because teams would fall just shy of coming back......but they never did, just like last night.
    I had looked it up a few years ago and posted it - but I don't have the strength to do it again. The difference between cowher and tomlin is when bill had an 11 point lead - he won in every game except 1. Tomlin has blown leads of 11 points or more several times. not all resulted in losses, but they are blown leads nonetheless. who can forget just last season with a 23-7 at the half against the bolts only to lose 33-30? I also remember a game a few years ago against the raiders where they blew a 14 point lead in the 4th but squeaked out a last second FG to win. I also recall blowing a 13 point lead against the rats but I think that was a game vick started.

    I'm not just posting to be negative or contrarian - just pointing out Tomlin lets teams back into the game far more often and far easier than I'm comfortable with.
    2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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    • hawaiiansteel
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      • May 2008
      • 35651

      Originally posted by Disco1981
      Oh Pretty please...

      2nd string RB passing from your own 12, Wildcat on a 2nd and 1 for a big loss, instead of trying to power it for ONCE, for a 1st down...Leaving a TO in his pocket going into half ( God is he terrible at clock management ) Thumping his chest with his stupid sunglasses on, at the end of the game, when the game wasn't over...Not even mentioning the OT debacle...

      Dude makes the same mistakes week after week, year after year...Steelers have been on a heavy downhill spiral the last few years...

      Popcorn can't get out of his own way, He is a terrible Coach!

      If Washington wants him, They can have him... PLEASE! I could drive him!

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      • Oh wow
        Hall of Famer
        • Mar 2019
        • 2753

        Originally posted by Starlifter
        I had looked it up a few years ago and posted it - but I don't have the strength to do it again. The difference between cowher and tomlin is when bill had an 11 point lead - he won in every game except 1. Tomlin has blown leads of 11 points or more several times. not all resulted in losses, but they are blown leads nonetheless. who can forget just last season with a 23-7 at the half against the bolts only to lose 33-30? I also remember a game a few years ago against the raiders where they blew a 14 point lead in the 4th but squeaked out a last second FG to win. I also recall blowing a 13 point lead against the rats but I think that was a game vick started.

        I'm not just posting to be negative or contrarian - just pointing out Tomlin lets teams back into the game far more often and far easier than I'm comfortable with.
        NFL also makes it easier to score points these days with all these bogus calls.

        Did you see the refs screw the Lions tonight?

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        • Starlifter
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          • May 2008
          • 5098

          Originally posted by Oh wow
          NFL also makes it easier to score points these days with all these bogus calls.

          Did you see the refs screw the Lions tonight?
          didn't watch the game and I don't disagree the league is more penalty driven and offense driven than in years past. But the game is always changing, sometimes not for the better. That doesn't mean we can't compare.
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          • fordfixer
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            • May 2008
            • 10931

            Originally posted by Oh wow
            NFL also makes it easier to score points these days with all these bogus calls.

            Did you see the refs screw the Lions tonight?
            Which time?

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35651

              Originally posted by fordfixer
              Which time?
              no kidding, everyone in the Lions organization and all their fans should be livid...

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                Lions got jobbed. Whole nation saw it.

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                • NJ-STEELER
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                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  Originally posted by Oh wow
                  I don’t blame Ben for everything but I definitely blame players for their lack of execution on the field more than coaches for the hypotheticals.

                  players on the field face other players just as big and just as fast looking to crush them.

                  tomlin just has to watch them and use his brain to make a decision. which clearly he is lacking.

                  shoot, he's even said himself that the patriot are intellectual while we're (steelers) emotional.
                  a coach shouldn't be making decisions on pure emotions but that's exactly what he's doing
                  Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 10-15-2019, 02:00 AM.

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                  • NJ-STEELER
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                    • May 2008
                    • 12563

                    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                    Yep

                    Winning on the road on the west coast with a rookie UDFA QB with other significant injuries on O and D is just a pathetic display of coaching.

                    Don't you see how zealously anchoring on a belief for Tomlin is forcing you to make (and then defend) terrible arguments?

                    It's Tomlin derangement syndrome
                    I've actually stuck up for him in the past

                    remember everyone getting on him for the on side kick vs Jax in the playoff game. I agreed it was the right thing to do because it gave them 2 chances at getting the ball


                    Now. what the FFF have you ever said negative about him

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                    • NJ-STEELER
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                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                      Yep

                      Winning on the road on the west coast with a rookie UDFA QB with other significant injuries on O and D is just a pathetic display of coaching.

                      Don't you see how zealously anchoring on a belief for Tomlin is forcing you to make (and then defend) terrible arguments?

                      It's Tomlin derangement syndrome
                      it was a good win, not a great home field advantage for those chargers and they have a history of losing games in these types of situations, but a good win nonetheless

                      thank god for you sutton held onto the ball there at the end or that clock mismanagement before the half would be getting a lot more play today. even some of you guys might be questioning Teflon Tom about it

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                      • NJ-STEELER
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                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        Originally posted by phillyesq
                        Yeah, on the road, with a UDFA rookie QB, and a 21-0 halftime lead, the conservative approach was the way to go. I was fine with it. Much better chance of a pick or a sack/fumble than pushing the ball for a score.
                        you try a somewhat safe play on 1st/2nd down. if that dont gain any yards, you kneel it down go into the locker room. no bigg deal. but, you have to give it try

                        this is discussed often by the SNF crew

                        in the end, it at least gives ducky an in game experience of a quick 2 minute drill for somewhere down the road when it may be needed a bit more then yesterday. san diego was on their Heels the whole 1st half
                        Last edited by NJ-STEELER; 10-15-2019, 02:03 AM.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
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                          • May 2008
                          • 35651

                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          Lions got jobbed. Whole nation saw it.
                          the NFL has a serious officiating problem...

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                          • BURGH86STEEL
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                            • May 2008
                            • 6933

                            Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                            it was a good win, not a great home field advantage for those chargers and they have a history of losing games in these types of situations, but a good win nonetheless

                            thank god for you sutton held onto the ball there at the end or that clock mismanagement before the half would be getting a lot more play today. even some of you guys might be questioning Teflon Tom about it
                            There was nothing wrong going into half time with a 21-0 lead on the road with a rookie QB. The things that people criticize this coaching staff for sometimes is insane.
                            Last edited by BURGH86STEEL; 10-15-2019, 05:13 AM.

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                            • Northern_Blitz
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 24382

                              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                              I've actually stuck up for him in the past

                              remember everyone getting on him for the on side kick vs Jax in the playoff game. I agreed it was the right thing to do because it gave them 2 chances at getting the ball


                              Now. what the FFF have you ever said negative about him
                              I have consistently said that his insistence on refusing to share caries for RBs is stupid. Especially in the year with Blount where it may have cost us a trip to the SB. I even went through his coaching tenure and posted all the data (that's his I know that argument is reasonable)

                              I've also been critical of his time management and have often called for us to hire an analytics expert to advise in real time on game day. Stupid not to do this because it's an advantage we'd get that doesn't impact the cap.

                              There are reasonable arguments against Tomlin iMO. Deciding not to be reckless with an untested UDFA QB when you have a 21 point lead is not a good argument IMO.
                              Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 10-15-2019, 06:21 AM.

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                              • Northern_Blitz
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                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24382

                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                it was a good win, not a great home field advantage for those chargers and they have a history of losing games in these types of situations, but a good win nonetheless

                                thank god for you sutton held onto the ball there at the end or that clock mismanagement before the half would be getting a lot more play today. even some of you guys might be questioning Teflon Tom about it
                                I was happy we got the pick because it sealed the deal and I like when the Steelers win.

                                But even without the pick, it would have been 3rd and 10 from the Chargers 1 (99 yards away, not 1 yard) with under a minute to go up by 7 with no time outs for them.

                                That's clearly not a bad situation to be in, right?

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