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  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 26639

    Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
    What if MT wants to make the move? Ben is getting older. Tomlin's son plays for Maryland I believe. Lots of VIP's in that town. Politics in MT's future ?
    In this case, I would think Rooney would entertain the idea of letting him go. Also, regarding Tomlin's extension, maybe it was Tomlin's choice for the term?? Knowing the end of Roethlisberger's career is near maybe Tomlin wanted the option to move on?

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    • Starlifter
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 5098

      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      In this case, I would think Rooney would entertain the idea of letting him go. Also, regarding Tomlin's extension, maybe it was Tomlin's choice for the term?? Knowing the end of Roethlisberger's career is near maybe Tomlin wanted the option to move on?
      that's an interesting notion. I can't for the life of me imagine a HC asking for a short-term contract. But then I also didn't expect to defer in OT to the rats. So there's that.........
      2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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      • Northern_Blitz
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 24382

        Originally posted by Starlifter
        regarding the first statement above - I might be wrong, but I thought this was Tomlin's last year and he was given a one year extension through the 2020 season. If that's true, I'm not sure that speaks to the confidence you believe Rooney has with Tomlin.

        As to your second - that's entirely possible. I don't think the answers to my questions are clear at all - but I freely admit I'm hoping Rooney is not dismissing this outright.
        That's what I thought when I was first reading comments on here talking about how Tomlin was a "lame duck coach". I believe those posts were incorrect. That was pointed out at the time, but people still keep posting that (mis?)-information

        Here's an article about his signing: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...burgh-steelers

        That news was the official announcement that the team and head coach Mike Tomlin had agreed on a one-year contract extension through the 2021 season...This one-year extension (with a reported one-year team option in 2022) finally put to bed the speculation as to whether or not the team would be willing to give its head coach a new deal in light of the drama that has been omnipresent in recent years, as well as the failure to make the playoffs in 2018..

        His previous contract went through the 2020 season. The new contract goes through the 2021 season, with an option for 2022.

        It's possible that I'm numbering the seasons incorrectly. But, I believe that the current season is the 2019 season. So does Wikipedia.


        Assuming the article uses the same season numbering as Wikipedia, the "lame duck" narrative and the "prove it deal" narrative ring kind of hollow to me when we're presented with the facts of the extension.
        Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 10-09-2019, 07:44 PM.

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        • Northern_Blitz
          Legend
          • Dec 2008
          • 24382

          Originally posted by Terrapin
          Go ask all the owners if they'd rather have a franchise QB or a great head coach for the next 15 years. I'd bet my life at least 30 opt for the QB

          Culture, stability, and loyalty? I guess, in regards to coaches. Although I also now suspect a large degree of political correctness
          Franchise QB is the most important thing. I'd take a top 3 pick in a heart beat over any coach except BB. For him, I'd have to think about it.

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24382

            Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
            What if MT wants to make the move? Ben is getting older. Tomlin's son plays for Maryland I believe. Lots of VIP's in that town. Politics in MT's future ?
            This is why I think it's interesting that I haven't seen a definitive report on who's option it is for 2022. The link I posted said it was reported that it was the Steelers option (which I think makes sense). But, I thought I traced the source when the contract was announced and it was "assumed" that it was the Steelers option. Maybe more details came out after though.

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 26639

              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
              Franchise QB is the most important thing. I'd take a top 3 pick in a heart beat over any coach except BB. For him, I'd have to think about it.
              It's the unknown that makes this a very hard choice. A top 3 pick, even if a QB, doesn't guarantee he will be a franchise player. One thing I think is interesting is that rookie QBs are flashing much quicker than they used to in the past. Wondering if the changes in offense at the college level now have these QBs much more prepared for the NFL? In otherwords, is the pool of possible franchise QBs gradually growing? Maybe too soon to tell...

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              • Moonie
                Hall of Famer
                • Sep 2013
                • 2518

                The rumors are false. The Redskins have no interest in Tomlin.

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                • Starlifter
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 5098

                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  That's what I thought when I was first reading comments on here talking about how Tomlin was a "lame duck coach". I believe those posts were incorrect. That was pointed out at the time, but people still keep posting that (mis?)-information

                  Here's an article about his signing: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...burgh-steelers

                  That news was the official announcement that the team and head coach Mike Tomlin had agreed on a one-year contract extension through the 2021 season...This one-year extension (with a reported one-year team option in 2022) finally put to bed the speculation as to whether or not the team would be willing to give its head coach a new deal in light of the drama that has been omnipresent in recent years, as well as the failure to make the playoffs in 2018..

                  His previous contract went through the 2020 season. The new contract goes through the 2021 season, with an option for 2022.

                  It's possible that I'm numbering the seasons incorrectly. But, I believe that the current season is the 2019 season. So does Wikipedia.


                  Assuming the article uses the same season numbering as Wikipedia, the "lame duck" narrative and the "prove it deal" narrative ring kind of hollow to me when we're presented with the facts of the extension.
                  Thx, that’s good info!
                  2014 MNF EXEC CHAMPION!!!

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                  • Northern_Blitz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 24382

                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    It's the unknown that makes this a very hard choice. A top 3 pick, even if a QB, doesn't guarantee he will be a franchise player. One thing I think is interesting is that rookie QBs are flashing much quicker than they used to in the past. Wondering if the changes in offense at the college level now have these QBs much more prepared for the NFL? In otherwords, is the pool of possible franchise QBs gradually growing? Maybe too soon to tell...
                    I agree that it's hard to scout QBs (really any player, but especially QBs). Ryan Leaf was supposed to be awesome right, maybe better than P.Manning. Turns out he was terrible.

                    Well...I started typing that I don't think any team would trade a top 3 pick. And I don't think we have because there are at least a few teams trying to be terrible, but we don't exactly know. I think we'll end up with 5 - 8 wins (although 8 seems like a pretty high number now). I don't think that will be top 3 this year.

                    But I do think we'll have traded away a top 10 pick. Something more like a foundational OL, DT, or secondary player.

                    But we seem to have gotten a foundational secondary player as well, so I can probably live with that. Especially since he'll have an extra 2 years of experience when Ben comes back. And I think that we should be doing everything we can to maximize our chances of winning while Ben's still here.

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      We’ll end up with 6 wins at the most.

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        We’ll end up with 6 wins at the most.
                        Like we did with Cowher in 1999 and 2003. We followed those seasons with 9 wins and 15 wins respectively. I'll take the 15 wins
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • Eich
                          Legend
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 7078

                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Like we did with Cowher in 1999 and 2003. We followed those seasons with 9 wins and 15 wins respectively.
                          And we followed that with a Super Bowl ring. I'll take the ring!

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                          • JGRedDog
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2019
                            • 27

                            Originally posted by Iron City Inc.
                            What if MT wants to make the move? Ben is getting older. Tomlin's son plays for Maryland I believe. Lots of VIP's in that town. Politics in MT's future ?
                            I sure hope that's true because no way does Rooney make this sort of move otherwise, he's more concerned with maintaining an image above all else. Isn't Tomlin from Viriginia too? I think once Ben retires Tomlin is hightailing it out of Pittsburgh anyways after squandering the second half of Ben's career away.

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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                              That's what I thought when I was first reading comments on here talking about how Tomlin was a "lame duck coach". I believe those posts were incorrect. That was pointed out at the time, but people still keep posting that (mis?)-information

                              Here's an article about his signing: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...burgh-steelers

                              That news was the official announcement that the team and head coach Mike Tomlin had agreed on a one-year contract extension through the 2021 season...This one-year extension (with a reported one-year team option in 2022) finally put to bed the speculation as to whether or not the team would be willing to give its head coach a new deal in light of the drama that has been omnipresent in recent years, as well as the failure to make the playoffs in 2018..

                              His previous contract went through the 2020 season. The new contract goes through the 2021 season, with an option for 2022.

                              It's possible that I'm numbering the seasons incorrectly. But, I believe that the current season is the 2019 season. So does Wikipedia.


                              Assuming the article uses the same season numbering as Wikipedia, the "lame duck" narrative and the "prove it deal" narrative ring kind of hollow to me when we're presented with the facts of the extension.
                              There you go peeing in all the Tomlin hater's Wheaties by pointing out the fact that Rooney's secured Tomlin's service for 2 more years at least and potentially 3 years. Facts suck

                              Like I said previously, the 15 year tenure mark is when I would expect the Rooneys to be looking to make a change. Guess what, the current contract takes Tomlin to 15 years.
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                              • Oh wow
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Mar 2019
                                • 2753

                                Originally posted by JGRedDog
                                I sure hope that's true because no way does Rooney make this sort of move otherwise, he's more concerned with maintaining an image above all else. Isn't Tomlin from Viriginia too? I think once Ben retires Tomlin is hightailing it out of Pittsburgh anyways after squandering the second half of Ben's career away.
                                Someone on here once blamed Tomlin for not coaching Ben on how to throw less turnovers.

                                Ben has admitted he doesn’t throw in the off-season. He doesn’t sit with the OC or WR’s during games and game plan. He just watches the game.

                                It’s amazing how Ben is seen as this guy who is being wasted when he has never had SB appearances without a top 5 defense.

                                Maybe part of the reasons we aren’t in SB’s is because Ben eats up too much cap space?

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