Fire Mike Tomlin

[Oh wow]

i'm not sure about the others, but, that was pretty obvious... anyone disputing that they weren't prepared isn't being realistic.

now, having said that, i still have my own personal opinion on what REALLY happened and caused wasted years... His name is Todd Haley. Whoever decided to fire Arians and hire Haley wasted several prime years of Ben's career while NFL rules where changing in favor of offensive players.

With Arians, they were in 2 of 3 Super Bowls. His final year was the Broncos playoff debacle... Not sure how Arians got scapegoated for that.

Nah. Haley got Ben to realize he could throw the ball quickly.

[steelz09]

Not prepared. How is tht even remotely acceptable? What makes matters worse is that is hardly the first time.

How could they not be prepared? They had the entire off-season.
It's not like they didnt have months to get prepared. Isn't preparation one of the key elements of coaching? Lol.

[hawaiiansteel]

[NJ-STEELER]

Go back and take a closer look SoD; scoring by the offense was in continual decline at the end with Arians. Defenses figured him out and the QB was being killed sitting in the pocket for the long developing pass routes. It's also what got him booted out of Indy. Watch what happens to Winston in TB this season.

booted out of Indy?

he won coach of the year on an interim basis.

he went to coach arizona when pagano came back from taking time off to deal with his leukemia

[Oviedo]

Dude. We could win the next 4 games and folks will still talk about the Pats beatdown like it was a 4 game losing streak.

cant be happy unless they are unhappy

[Eich]

Dude. We could win the next 4 games and folks will still talk about the Pats beatdown like it was a 4 game losing streak.

There's always overreaction from some. No big deal. But It'll be a hell of a lot better if we win the next 4 than if we lose the next 4.

Go Steelers!

[Oh wow]

There's always overreaction from some. No big deal. But It'll be a hell of a lot better if we win the next 4 than if we lose the next 4.

Go Steelers!

Yup... and I’ve overreacted as well.

But I think after Wednesday it’s pretty much time to move onto the next game.

[Northern_Blitz]

I said in the preseason that I think we'll probably be ~ 500 going into the bye.

Still think that's true.

We should be worse than last year on O, and the D is young but they'll hopefully get better as the season progresses. I also expect we'll be better at kicking FGs because it's hard to be worse.

[Disco1981]

Hypothetical question...If they had fired Popcorn after last year and offered the job to Munchak, Do you to think he would have took it...And would you have been happy if he did take it

[Steel Maniac]

Hypothetical question...If they had fired Popcorn after last year and offered the job to Munchak, Do you to think he would have took it...And would you have been happy if he did take it

Wow. Great question.

[Oh wow]

Stupid question.

[whatever]

Would be interested in that list. Especially the ones with multiple HC’s.

It’s easy to say these types of things but usually when we research the facts it’s totally the opposite.

Go research and prove yourself wrong.

[Northern_Blitz]

Hypothetical question...If they had fired Popcorn after last year and offered the job to Munchak, Do you to think he would have took it...And would you have been happy if he did take it

No. I think Munchak doesn't want to be a head coach again after the first time. Some guys are just better position coaches / coordinators.

I think he would have made the same move to be with family (although that option may not have been available in your hypothetical timeline).

[Oh wow]

Go research and prove yourself wrong.

Hmm.. seems like you could easily list off a few for us.

I’m not that invested in the answer but thanks for not backing up your words.

[Northern_Blitz]

Go research and prove yourself wrong.

The thing is that only one side of this debate does research (the side arguing for the status quo). And that work has generally shown that the Steelers have met or exceeded reasonable expectations under Tomlin, even over his worst span of time (conviently used by those who don't like him).

I think in successful organizations, the side of an argument that wants a dramatic change should be the one that has to demonstrate that the change is better than the status quo. And given the Steelers success under Tomlin, I think it's unlikely that you'd be able to make the that case outside of hiring BB (which I would obviously do in a second).