Fire Mike Tomlin

[winwithd]

Or the have a HC with a brain fart ... aka Atlanta SB against NE... should have been an easy win but Quinn lost his mind at the end of the game.

Or Pete Carroll at the end of another SB. Or McVay the whole game. NE has been quite fortunate.

[BURGH86STEEL]

I think this illustrates the issue pretty well.

Many of us (myself included) watch all the Steelers games and little of the rest of the league.

Because we see all of Tomlin's mistake (and are emotionally invested in them) we think he makes way more mistakes than other coaches.

I'd say we'd see that in the record if it were true.

One problem with fans is they only seem to focus on the negatives. The negative narrative seems to drive those fan's thinking and beliefs that the negatives happen the majority of the time. They place more weight on the scale of the negatives than the positives. It really makes no sense when the team won more than they loss with Tomlin as HC.

No one can take away the fact that Tomlin is a winning HC.

[Moonie]

Pete Carroll keeps getting mentioned. He's considered good, has all the medals. Would anyone seriously take that exaggerated fool over Tomlin?

[whatever]

One problem with fans is they only seem to focus on the negatives. The negative narrative seems to drive those fan's thinking and beliefs that the negatives happen the majority of the time. They place more weight on the scale of the negatives than the positives. It really makes no sense when the team won more than they loss with Tomlin as HC.

No one can take away the fact that Tomlin is a winning HC.

I don't think too many are totally upset over Tomlin's regular season record. They care about his massive failures come post season.

[whatever]

How can Tomlin be this terrible and have such a high winning percentage?

Black magic I tell ya!!!

Yup, he is a regular season runner up champ.... yippee

[Oh wow]

Yup, he is a regular season runner up champ.... yippee

Good one Ricky Bobby!

[Oviedo]

One problem with fans is they only seem to focus on the negatives. The negative narrative seems to drive those fan's thinking and beliefs that the negatives happen the majority of the time. They place more weight on the scale of the negatives than the positives. It really makes no sense when the team won more than they loss with Tomlin as HC.

No one can take away the fact that Tomlin is a winning HC.

Well said. There are too many "glass half empty" fans who can't see a positive if they walked into it.

[Northern_Blitz]

I don't think too many are totally upset over Tomlin's regular season record. They care about his massive failures come post season.

And yet many venerate Cowher who failed harder in the playoffs than Tomlin. All those home AFCC losses were soul crushing, but he won at the end and that's what we remember.

Neither is the best of their time.

Both are very good coaches who are among the best of their times.

[Mr.wizard]

I don't think too many are totally upset over Tomlin's regular season record. They care about his massive failures come post season.

So a winning record in the playoffs and winning a championship is a massive failure?

[SteelDecipher]

Pete Carroll keeps getting mentioned. He's considered good, has all the medals. Would anyone seriously take that exaggerated fool over Tomlin?

Yes

He coaches both to his teams strengths and the opponents weaknesses. He has evolved as a coach, changing his teams identity as they have changed personnel. He and his his staff have also done a good job drafting and/or replacing personnel losses. Also, Carroll didn't walk into a loaded team, he built it.

Each of those, are items Tomlin struggles with.

[whatever]

Yes

He coaches both to his teams strengths and the opponents weaknesses. He has evolved as a coach, changing his teams identity as they have changed personnel. He and his his staff have also done a good job drafting and/or replacing personnel losses. Also, Carroll didn't walk into a loaded team, he built it.

Each of those, are items Tomlin struggles with.

Absolutely.
The guy has 8 playoff wins, a Superbowl win and another appearance. Never list a playoff game to an inferior team and actually best teams that were better.
He lost a ton of talent and drafted and developed his own QB.
Hands down a superior HC over Tomlin.

[SteelBucks]

Hot button topics: politics, religion, Tomlin.

[Moonie]

Yes

He coaches both to his teams strengths and the opponents weaknesses. He has evolved as a coach, changing his teams identity as they have changed personnel. He and his his staff have also done a good job drafting and/or replacing personnel losses. Also, Carroll didn't walk into a loaded team, he built it.

Each of those, are items Tomlin struggles with.

Wrong. Carroll never coaches to his teams' strengths and opponents' weaknesses. He has never evolved as a coach, and has remained a college jockstrap. Changing team identity is one of his biggest flaws. He has done a lousy job of replacing personnel. He is a mediocre coach, who sustains his image by being intense about his low IQ, which apparently works even here.

And he single-handedly threw away a super bowl. He only survived that because the Seahawks and their fans are among the most ignorant in the league.

[SteelDecipher]

Wrong. Carroll never coaches to his teams' strengths and opponents' weaknesses. He has never evolved as a coach, and has remained a college jockstrap. Changing team identity is one of his biggest flaws. He has done a lousy job of replacing personnel. He is a mediocre coach, who sustains his image by being intense about his low IQ, which apparently works even here.

And he single-handedly threw away a super bowl. He only survived that because the Seahawks and their fans are among the most ignorant in the league.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.

All of your points are wrong

The team absolutely plays different today, than it did when he first built the roster.

Having previously lived in Seattle, I wont suggest it is a football hotbed, but the one play wouldn't have changed his employment status.

Was it the wrong play call?? Possibly. It was pretty gutsy, and a great read by the corner.

No matter- they were in position to win the Super Bowl against a team that consistently owns the Tomlin's Steelers.

Also, they won last week- and were doing so- pretty easily prior to Ben going out.

Feel free to create whatever inaccurate responses you'd like.

[Moonie]

I don't think you know what you are talking about.

All of your points are wrong

The team absolutely plays different today, than it did when he first built the roster.

Having previously lived in Seattle, I wont suggest it is a football hotbed, but the one play wouldn't have changed his employment status.

Was it the wrong play call?? Possibly. It was pretty gutsy, and a great read by the corner.

No matter- they were in position to win the Super Bowl against a team that consistently owns the Tomlin's Steelers.

Also, they won last week- and were doing so- pretty easily prior to Ben going out.

Feel free to create whatever inaccurate responses you'd like.

You don't know what you are talking about. All of your points are wrong and unsupportable, and double-down on them doesn't change that.

Changing team identity is one of Carroll's biggest flaws. It means the team has no identity. You Carroll-lovers never seem to grasp that. Your Seattle experience is why you are unable to grasp the real points of the NFL.

It was the wrong call is the super bowl. Not "possibly" - absolutely. Everyone outside of the most hardcore, naive Carroll-lower knows that. He blew the super bowl to the disgust of an entire nation. It should have been the end of his career.

Feel free to create whatever erroneous, false, unsupportable, redundant responses you'd like. The First Amendment says you are allowed that freedom.