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  • Oh wow
    Hall of Famer
    • Mar 2019
    • 2753

    #61
    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
    What the hell is calling a player unauthentic supposed to mean?

    I'm not picking on you, so don't get your panties in a bunch over it, but I literally have no idea what that is supposed to convey.

    What player quality makes someone authentic or not?
    You should know by now...lol.

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    • Iron City Inc.
      Hall of Famer
      • Jun 2013
      • 3237

      #62
      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
      It's now officially draft week, so I'm putting out what I think should be my final mocks in pen rather than pencil (I suppose if some big news breaks between Monday and Thursday of this week, I might have to make some tweaks, but I'm hoping these are my last mocks for the 2019 draft season).

      I'm going with two mocks here, one if Devin White falls down to #8 or #9 and we are able to trade up with Detroit or Buffalo for him, and then another if we stay put and use all 10 of our picks as they currently stand. I'm also challenging myself to not use any of the same players. If I picked a guy in the stay-put mock, he's not eligible for the trade-up mock and vice versa. Just makes it more fun to add a bit more variety that way, I think.

      And although I had a mock earlier in which I chose multiple players from the same school within one mock (the infamous "Noah's Ark" edition), I'm also trying to not even use the same school more than once here. I was going to put Georgia center/guard prospect Lamont Gaillard in my trade-up mock, but I already had Georgia OLB D'Andre Walker in my stay-put mock, so I opted for Wisconsin guard Bean Benzschawel to be my later-round interior OL depth pick in that mock instead.

      Here goes...


      Option 1: Trade up with Detroit (1.8) or Buffalo (1.9) if ILB Devin White is still available there. Offer picks 1.20, 2.52, and a 3rd round pick in 2020.

      1.8 ILB Devin White, LSU 6-0 237
      3.66 OLB Chase Winovich, Michigan 6-3 252
      3.83 S Amani Hooker, Iowa 6-0 210
      4.122 TE Dawson Knox, Ole Miss 6-4 254
      5.141 CB Kris Boyd, Texas 5-11 201
      6.175 WR Keelan Doss, UC Davis 6-3 212
      6.192 G Beau Benzschawel, Wisconsin 6-6 309
      6.207 RB Kerrith Whyte, Florida Atlantic 5-10 197
      7.219 DE Armon Watts, Arkansas 6-5 300

      Option 2: Stay put and pick 10 guys at our current draft positions

      1.20 CB Byron Murphy, Washington 5-11 189
      2.52 OLB D'Andre Walker, Georgia 6-2 251
      3.66 S Darnell Savage, Maryland 5-11 198
      3.83 WR Miles Boykin, Notre Dame 6-4 220
      4.122 ILB David Long, WVU 5-11 227
      5.141 C/G Ross Pierschbacher, Alabama 6-4 308
      6.175 TE Kahele Warring, San Diego St 6-5 252
      6.192 NT Daylon Mack, Texas A&M 6-1 336
      6.207 RB Devine Ozigbo, Nebraska 5-11 222
      7.219 DE Albert Huggins, Clemson 6-3 305
      Nice work Ruth. Option 2 is good but 1 is flat out special n with us having likely 2 3's next year won't hurt that bad. Whyte is going to play far better then where he is projected imho.

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #63
        MERRY FOOTBALL CHRISTMAS, EVERYBODY! DRAFT DAY IS FINALLY HERE!!!

        While I've done numerous Steeler mocks throughout this draft season, I've only done one full first round mock, and it was a month ago, so it's a good time for that final update, eh? I'm including my projected trade in which we give up a 2nd this year and a 3rd next year to move up to #8 with Detroit to get Devin White. And I'm going to keep going picking for everyone until we make both of our picks in round 3. Here goes:

        Round 1

        1. Arizona Cardinals QB Kyler Murray
        2. San Francisco 49ers EDGE Nick Bosa
        3. New York Jets DT Quinnen Williams
        4. Oakland Raiders EDGE Josh Allen
        5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers DT Ed Oliver
        6. New York Giants QB Dwayne Haskins
        7. Jacksonville Jaguars OT Jawaan Taylor
        8. Pittsburgh Steelers [*Projected Trade with Detroit Lions: 1.08 for 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd*] LB Devin White
        9. Buffalo Bills OT Andre Dillard
        10. Denver Broncos TE T.J. Hockenson
        11. Cincinnati Bengals LB Devin Bush
        12. Green Bay Packers EDGE Brian Burns
        13. Miami Dolphins EDGE Montez Sweat
        14. Atlanta Falcons DT Christian Wilkins
        15. Washington Redskins QB Drew Lock
        16. Carolina Panthers OT Jonah Williams
        17. New York Giants (from Cleveland Browns) EDGE Rashan Gary
        18. Minnesota Vikings OT Cody Ford
        19. Tennessee Titans TE Noah Fant
        20. Detroit Lions [*Projected Trade with Pittsburgh Steelers: 1.08 for 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd*] CB Greedy Williams
        21. Seattle Seahawks EDGE Clelin Ferrell
        22. Baltimore Ravens WR D.K. Metcalf
        23. Houston Texans CB DeAndre Baker
        24. Oakland Raiders (from Chicago Bears) WR Marquise Brown
        25. Philadelphia Eagles CB Byron Murphy
        26. Indianapolis Colts S Johnathan Abram
        27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas Cowboys) RB Josh Jacobs
        28. Los Angeles Chargers DT Dexter Lawrence
        29. Seattle Seahawks (from Kansas City Chiefs) DT Justin Simmons
        30. Green Bay Packers (from New Orleans Saints) TE Irv Smith
        31. Los Angeles Rams OC Garrett Bradbury
        32. New England Patriots QB Daniel Jones

        Round 2

        33. Arizona WR N'Keal Harry
        34. Indianapolis (from N.Y. Jets) WR A.J. Brown
        35. Oakland CB Rock Ya-Sin
        36. San Francisco WR Parris Campbell
        37. N.Y. Giants WR Hakeem Butler
        38. Jacksonville S Deionte Thompson
        39. Tampa Bay LB Mack Wilson
        40. Buffalo DT Jerry Tillery
        41. Denver OC Erik McCoy
        42. Cincinnati OT Greg Little
        43. Detroit EDGE L.J. Collier
        44. Green Bay WR Deebo Samuel
        45. Atlanta CB Julian Love
        46. Washington WR Kelvin Harmon
        47. Carolina CB Trayvon Mullen
        48. Miami CB Lonnie Johnson
        49. Cleveland CB Amari Oruwariye
        50. Minnesota EDGE Jaylon Ferguson
        51. Tennessee EDGE D'Andre Walker
        52. Detroit Lions [*Projected Trade with Pittsburgh Steelers: 1.08 for 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd*] S Nassir Adderley
        53. Philadelphia (from Baltimore) RB Miles Sanders
        54. Houston (from Seattle) OT Kaleb McGary
        55. Houston RB Darrell Henderson
        56. New England (from Chicago) OT Dalton Risner
        57. Philadelphia OG Chris Lindstrom
        58. Dallas S Juan Thornhill
        59. Indianapolis EDGE Oshane Ximines
        60. L.A. Chargers S Taylor Rapp
        61. Kansas City CB Justin Layne
        62. New Orleans S Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
        63. Kansas City (from L.A. Rams) OC Elgton Jenkins
        64. New England WR Riley Ridley

        Round 3

        65. Arizona OG Michael Deiter
        66. Pittsburgh (from Oakland) S Darnell Savage
        67. San Francisco S Amani Hooker
        68. N.Y. Jets CB Isaiah Johnson
        69. Jacksonville RB David Montgomery
        70. Tampa Bay RB Damien Harris
        71. Denver LB Vosean Joseph
        72. Cincinnati DT Dre'mont Jones
        73. New England (from Detroit) LB Germaine Pratt
        74. Buffalo CB Sean Bunting
        75. Green Bay RB Justice Hill
        76. Washington OG Connor McGovern
        77. Carolina EDGE Zach Allen
        78. Miami OT Tytus Howard
        79. Atlanta RB Tray'veon Williams
        80. Cleveland OT Yodny Cajuste
        81. Minnesota DT Gerald Willis
        82. Tennessee OC Michael Jordan
        83. Pittsburgh EDGE Chase Winovich
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • Mick'sTeam
          Backup
          • Jun 2008
          • 480

          #64
          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          MERRY FOOTBALL CHRISTMAS, EVERYBODY! DRAFT DAY IS FINALLY HERE!!!

          While I've done numerous Steeler mocks throughout this draft season, I've only done one full first round mock, and it was a month ago, so it's a good time for that final update, eh? I'm including my projected trade in which we give up a 2nd this year and a 3rd next year to move up to #8 with Detroit to get Devin White. And I'm going to keep going picking for everyone until we make both of our picks in round 3. Here goes:

          Round 1

          1. Arizona Cardinals QB Kyler Murray
          2. San Francisco 49ers EDGE Nick Bosa
          3. New York Jets DT Quinnen Williams
          4. Oakland Raiders EDGE Josh Allen
          5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers DT Ed Oliver
          6. New York Giants QB Dwayne Haskins
          7. Jacksonville Jaguars OT Jawaan Taylor
          8. Pittsburgh Steelers [*Projected Trade with Detroit Lions: 1.08 for 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd*] LB Devin White
          9. Buffalo Bills OT Andre Dillard
          10. Denver Broncos TE T.J. Hockenson
          11. Cincinnati Bengals LB Devin Bush
          12. Green Bay Packers EDGE Brian Burns
          13. Miami Dolphins EDGE Montez Sweat
          14. Atlanta Falcons DT Christian Wilkins
          15. Washington Redskins QB Drew Lock
          16. Carolina Panthers OT Jonah Williams
          17. New York Giants (from Cleveland Browns) EDGE Rashan Gary
          18. Minnesota Vikings OT Cody Ford
          19. Tennessee Titans TE Noah Fant
          20. Detroit Lions [*Projected Trade with Pittsburgh Steelers: 1.08 for 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd*] CB Greedy Williams
          21. Seattle Seahawks EDGE Clelin Ferrell
          22. Baltimore Ravens WR D.K. Metcalf
          23. Houston Texans CB DeAndre Baker
          24. Oakland Raiders (from Chicago Bears) WR Marquise Brown
          25. Philadelphia Eagles CB Byron Murphy
          26. Indianapolis Colts S Johnathan Abram
          27. Oakland Raiders (from Dallas Cowboys) RB Josh Jacobs
          28. Los Angeles Chargers DT Dexter Lawrence
          29. Seattle Seahawks (from Kansas City Chiefs) DT Justin Simmons
          30. Green Bay Packers (from New Orleans Saints) TE Irv Smith
          31. Los Angeles Rams OC Garrett Bradbury
          32. New England Patriots QB Daniel Jones

          Round 2

          33. Arizona WR N'Keal Harry
          34. Indianapolis (from N.Y. Jets) WR A.J. Brown
          35. Oakland CB Rock Ya-Sin
          36. San Francisco WR Parris Campbell
          37. N.Y. Giants WR Hakeem Butler
          38. Jacksonville S Deionte Thompson
          39. Tampa Bay LB Mack Wilson
          40. Buffalo DT Jerry Tillery
          41. Denver OC Erik McCoy
          42. Cincinnati OT Greg Little
          43. Detroit EDGE L.J. Collier
          44. Green Bay WR Deebo Samuel
          45. Atlanta CB Julian Love
          46. Washington WR Kelvin Harmon
          47. Carolina CB Trayvon Mullen
          48. Miami CB Lonnie Johnson
          49. Cleveland CB Amari Oruwariye
          50. Minnesota EDGE Jaylon Ferguson
          51. Tennessee EDGE D'Andre Walker
          52. Detroit Lions [*Projected Trade with Pittsburgh Steelers: 1.08 for 1.20, 2.52, & 2020 3rd*] S Nassir Adderley
          53. Philadelphia (from Baltimore) RB Miles Sanders
          54. Houston (from Seattle) OT Kaleb McGary
          55. Houston RB Darrell Henderson
          56. New England (from Chicago) OT Dalton Risner
          57. Philadelphia OG Chris Lindstrom
          58. Dallas S Juan Thornhill
          59. Indianapolis EDGE Oshane Ximines
          60. L.A. Chargers S Taylor Rapp
          61. Kansas City CB Justin Layne
          62. New Orleans S Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
          63. Kansas City (from L.A. Rams) OC Elgton Jenkins
          64. New England WR Riley Ridley

          Round 3

          65. Arizona OG Michael Deiter
          66. Pittsburgh (from Oakland) S Darnell Savage
          67. San Francisco S Amani Hooker
          68. N.Y. Jets CB Isaiah Johnson
          69. Jacksonville RB David Montgomery
          70. Tampa Bay RB Damien Harris
          71. Denver LB Vosean Joseph
          72. Cincinnati DT Dre'mont Jones
          73. New England (from Detroit) LB Germaine Pratt
          74. Buffalo CB Sean Bunting
          75. Green Bay RB Justice Hill
          76. Washington OG Connor McGovern
          77. Carolina EDGE Zach Allen
          78. Miami OT Tytus Howard
          79. Atlanta RB Tray'veon Williams
          80. Cleveland OT Yodny Cajuste
          81. Minnesota DT Gerald Willis
          82. Tennessee OC Michael Jordan
          83. Pittsburgh EDGE Chase Winovich
          I'd take this ALL DAY! Add in Miles Boykin in Rd 4 & I'm not sure the draft could fall any better.

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          • ikestops85
            Hall of Famer
            • Jun 2008
            • 3724

            #65
            We are an optimistic bunch.
            As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

            but Go Steelers!!!

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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #66
              Originally posted by ikestops85
              We are an optimistic bunch.
              Except for the posters who swear that all of our coaches, front office staff, ownership, and players are a bunch of incompetent fools.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • steelz09
                Administrator
                • Jan 2008
                • 4675

                #67
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Except for the posters who swear that all of our coaches, front office staff, ownership, and players are a bunch of incompetent fools.
                They are... Well, some of them. But I am confident or shall I say, hopeful, about your mock draft.
                Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #68
                  Originally posted by steelz09
                  They are... Well, some of them. But I am confident or shall I say, hopeful, about your mock draft.
                  That's a good way to put it. I'm HOPEFUL about my mock draft too. Not necessarily CONFIDENT that it could happen like that, but I sure HOPE so!
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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