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  • phillyesq
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 7568

    #16
    The Steelers have missed with a ton of picks, but this one is really Monday morning quarterbacking. Nobody really saw Leonard coming, and I don't remember him being projected as a first round pick in any mocks.

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    • NJ-STEELER
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #17
      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      Really?
      They didn't get Tuitt right? Didn't get Shazier right?
      Didn't get Hargrave right? Didn't get Watt right?

      It's not like they've been shut out. (Although they might consider purging their secondary scouting department since they've been struggling to find starters for a while now.)
      what's the saying? even a broken clock is right twice a day. getting 4 out of 11 (going back and including worldis and hood) in the top 2 rounds isn't exactly doing a great job.

      hargrave? he's nothing more then an average player. what's so "right" about him?
      and if you want to include 3rd and 4th rounders it gets even worse. sure, you're not expecting those guys to be stars but some should become useful. the offense has had some major contributions from those and later rounds

      curtis brown
      cortez allen
      sean spence
      ta'amu
      shamark thomas
      doran grant
      and might be too early to tell with cam sutton but he certainly hasn't distinguished himself

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      • pittpete
        Legend
        • Aug 2008
        • 6825

        #18
        Hargrave was a 3rd pick and i disagree that he just average.
        I'd love to see a stat when we had 3 down lineman compared to 2.
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        • Steel Maniac
          Banned
          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #19
          Originally posted by phillyesq
          The Steelers have missed with a ton of picks, but this one is really Monday morning quarterbacking. Nobody really saw Leonard coming, and I don't remember him being projected as a first round pick in any mocks.
          We missed on Leonard and Harold Landry. Either one would have served us well.

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #20
            Originally posted by phillyesq
            The Steelers have missed with a ton of picks, but this one is really Monday morning quarterbacking. Nobody really saw Leonard coming, and I don't remember him being projected as a first round pick in any mocks.
            If we were unable to land Leighton Vander Esch in round 1, I wanted to take Darius Leonard in round 2.

            But, you are right....I never heard a peep about Leonard being considered in the first round by anyone.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              #21
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              If we were unable to land Leighton Vander Esch in round 1, I wanted to take Darius Leonard in round 2.

              But, you are right....I never heard a peep about Leonard being considered in the first round by anyone.
              I never heard anything about Leonard in the first round; but there was chatter about Landry being taken in the first round.

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              • NJ-STEELER
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #22
                did anyone hear anything about edmonds going in the 1st round?

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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  did anyone hear anything about edmonds going in the 1st round?
                  ........sneaker....

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                  • steeler_george
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3417

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                    I never heard anything about Leonard in the first round; but there was chatter about Landry being taken in the first round.
                    I remember he was labeled a small school player, high risk to bust

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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #25
                      Originally posted by NorthCoast
                      I still believe the Steelers defense is one player away from being one of the top 5 in the league. Some draft gurus are suggesting the Steelers will go after OLB in the first round to bookend with Watt. A secondary pick with their record would be high risk.
                      I agree and it's either a shut down corner or a wild man safety in the likes of Troy. Damn I miss the good old days.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • Furious
                        Benchwarmer
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 99

                        #26
                        An order of Shutdown corner here to garcon. I think we had good pressure (3.2 sacks per game) on opposing QB's. But our secondary's uninspired play in the turnover category, leads me to believe our need for a true shutdown corner is a high demand. I know a lot people want us to play more man coverage. But Philly's D is pretty serviceable and they play a lot of zone. We just don't have the proper personnel in our secondary. When I see freaks like Derwin James and look at all of the"projects" we've drafted over recent years, makes me just shake my head.

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          I still believe the Steelers defense is one player away from being one of the top 5 in the league. Some draft gurus are suggesting the Steelers will go after OLB in the first round to bookend with Watt. A secondary pick with their record would be high risk.
                          Your dreaming; Your absolutely wrong on this. And you continue to pipe dream and make excuses for a management that has failed over an 8 year period.

                          3 playoff wins in the last 8 years.

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                          • NorthCoast
                            Legend
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 26640

                            #28
                            Earl Thomas is an interesting option to upgrade the secondary... likely done in Seattle. Not sure what the cap hit would be.

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                            • Steelerphile
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1198

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                              Your dreaming; Your absolutely wrong on this. And you continue to pipe dream and make excuses for a management that has failed over an 8 year period.

                              3 playoff wins in the last 8 years.
                              Name the active coaches outside of Belichick who have a better record. You keep saying that like it is bad.
                              The guy you want to hire (and you have no idea who it is) is either a rookie HC who has zero preseason wins, zero regular season wins, zero postseason appearances and zero playoff wins
                              or a recycled HC who doesn't have a record that is anywhere near as good as Tomlin's.

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