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  • Disco1981
    Pro Bowler
    • Apr 2017
    • 1635

    Darius Leonard

    Damn...He would looked good in black and gold...Especially ifwe coulda got Edmonds in the 2nd...Shoulda Woulda Coulda
  • NJ-STEELER
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 12563

    #2
    the scouting/ decisions on the defensive side of the ball have been horrific.

    9 of the last 12 1st/2nd rounders have been spent on defense and this is what we trot out there

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    • Ernie
      Legend
      • Aug 2013
      • 8470

      #3
      imagine what we'd have if we would have hit on the Jarvis jones.. artie burns.. and senquez golsen picks?

      and still had shazier

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      • Steel Maniac
        Banned
        • Apr 2017
        • 19472

        #4
        Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
        the scouting/ decisions on the defensive side of the ball have been horrific.

        9 of the last 12 1st/2nd rounders have been spent on defense and this is what we trot out there
        Yep..and that falls on Colbert as much as Tomlin.

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        • Terrapin
          Pro Bowler
          • Sep 2017
          • 2085

          #5
          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
          Yep..and that falls on Colbert as much as Tomlin.
          Yep. They should be be fired

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24382

            #6
            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
            Yep..and that falls on Colbert as much as Tomlin.
            I'd say it falls more on Colbert than Tomlin since player acquisition is the primary job of the GM.

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              #7
              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
              I'd say it falls more on Colbert than Tomlin since player acquisition is the primary job of the GM.
              Normally I'd agree with you. But Tomlin and Colbert have made it a big big deal over the last few years that they make these picks together. That's what they keep saying.

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              • NJ-STEELER
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #8
                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                Yep..and that falls on Colbert as much as Tomlin.
                anyone responsible for the defense I would let go, including scouting. they're just not getting it right

                colbert at least has some gems on the offensive side of the ball. its not his fault their drafting guys and trying to slot them in this stupid out dated scheme.
                trying to convert College DT's to DEs
                man corners into zone corners
                college DEs into OLBs
                etc etc

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                • Steelerphile
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1198

                  #9
                  The fans are constantly trying to run Tomlin out of head coach by stating the Steelers have dominant talent and therefore should blow everyone out and win the SuperBowl every year. The Steelers don't have dominant talent, especially on defense. I think it is a good reflection on Tomlin that the team has won the division four straight years and missed the playoffs by a Boswell blown field goal this year.

                  It is easy to question draft picks in hind sight, but they haven't drafted great on defense. They need to hit on a least one playmaker in this draft on defense. I am somewhat optimistic that Edmunds will be a good addition.

                  But when fans imply that putting together an NFL team that consistently wins the SuperBowl is easy; when there is so much competition from the 31 other NFL franchises, I scoff and laugh. I think that is the dopiest side of the fan culture. The belief that winning is as simple as filling their cup with water or alcohol or ordering takeout at the drive through in a fast food restaurant.

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                  • NorthCoast
                    Legend
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 26640

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                    anyone responsible for the defense I would let go, including scouting. they're just not getting it right

                    colbert at least has some gems on the offensive side of the ball. its not his fault their drafting guys and trying to slot them in this stupid out dated scheme.
                    trying to convert College DT's to DEs
                    man corners into zone corners
                    college DEs into OLBs
                    etc etc
                    Really?
                    They didn't get Tuitt right? Didn't get Shazier right?
                    Didn't get Hargrave right? Didn't get Watt right?

                    It's not like they've been shut out. (Although they might consider purging their secondary scouting department since they've been struggling to find starters for a while now.)

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                    • RobinCole
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1358

                      #11
                      You are spot on, Steelerphile. The Steelers have had dominant defenses. One of them included Jack Ham, Jack Lambert, Joe Green, Mel Blount, L. C. Greenwood and Donnie Shell. The current defense has some good players but nothing approaching the Steel Curtain. In fact, the current defense is no match even for the 2008 defense. It’s not easy to win a Super Bowl. Everything has to go right, including luck. Remember that the four won by the Steelers during the ‘70s were all in doubt in the 4th quarter. And with luck, the Steelers of the ‘70s could have won six.
                      Last edited by RobinCole; 01-06-2019, 10:11 AM.

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                      • NorthCoast
                        Legend
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26640

                        #12
                        I still believe the Steelers defense is one player away from being one of the top 5 in the league. Some draft gurus are suggesting the Steelers will go after OLB in the first round to bookend with Watt. A secondary pick with their record would be high risk.

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                        • Disco1981
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 1635

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NorthCoast
                          Really?
                          They didn't get Tuitt right? Didn't get Shazier right?
                          Didn't get Hargrave right? Didn't get Watt right?

                          It's not like they've been shut out. (Although they might consider purging their secondary scouting department since they've been struggling to find starters for a while now.)
                          Heyward......

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                          • pfelix73
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 3463

                            #14
                            I just hope they go back to picking the BPA this year. Even if it is a OG to replace Foster.
                            6- Time Super Bowl Champions......
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                            • pittpete
                              Legend
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 6825

                              #15
                              If we take a G with our 1st pick i will scream....LOL
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