Transition Tag - Question

[flippy]

Could the Steelers Transition Tag Bell so they can match and then match any offer even if they don't intend to keep him.

That way, they can potentially sign a long term deal with Le'Veon which they leverage into a trade for something better than a 3rd round pick and they can control where they send him.

Then if team's know that's the Steelers' strategy, will it incentivize some team to over offer if they believe they are trying to mess with the Steelers? And will it incentivize others to under offer in FA hurting Le'Veon's ultimate pay day.

Plus wouldn't it be fun if we could send him to the team with the worst Oline in the NFL and potentially also the worst QB/passing game?

Then again, wouldn't it be in teams best interests not to spend money on the RB position? There's a reason RB's cap numbers are where they are afterall.

[pittpete]

If they match the deal he gets from the other team, then theres no negotiating a new deal while with the Steelers.
They either sign him or he goes to the new team.

[flippy]

If they match the deal he gets from the other team, then theres no negotiating a new deal while with the Steelers.
They either sign him or he goes to the new team.

I get that. But then they can trade him for something better than a 3rd round pick, right?

[Mick'sTeam]

If a team was willing to take on the contract we would sign him to, wouldn't it make sense for them to just offer him the contract in free agency rather than allow the Steelers to sign the deal, then have to give up a draft pick in a trade just to take on that contract?

[K Train]

If a team was willing to take on the contract we would sign him to, wouldn't it make sense for them to just offer him the contract in free agency rather than allow the Steelers to sign the deal, then have to give up a draft pick in a trade just to take on that contract?

Where would he be a free agent?

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

The answer is yes. If the Steelers tag him then the team has the right of refusal on any deal he signs. So, if he does sign, the Steelers can turn choose to retain his rights and offer him to that team (and any other team) based on that deal. Ideally they do better than a third rounder that way. However, if the Steelers can't find a trade partner then they are stuck with him, or if they refuse to match the offer then they receive no compensation in return.

[Mick'sTeam]

If he's on the transition tag, he can receive offers from other teams, with the Steelers able to match. Am I understanding that incorrectly? If that's the case, it would make more sense to me for the other team to just offer a higher contract that the Steelers wouldn't want to match rather than let the Steelers sign him, and then give up a 1st rounder in addition to taking on the contract in a trade.

[steeler_george]

If he's on the transition tag, he can receive offers from other teams, with the Steelers able to match. Am I understanding that incorrectly? If that's the case, it would make more sense to me for the other team to just offer a higher contract that the Steelers wouldn't want to match rather than let the Steelers sign him, and then give up a 1st rounder in addition to taking on the contract in a trade.

That makes sense and i was thinking the same, but if we tag him for a 3rd time then he is guaranteed avg of top QB pay, 25m. So what team would compete with a first year salaryuld be that high, and add in long term contract and guarantee.

I think it would be just wash our hands of him, and be more than happy that we have Conner and salary cap space next year, any comp pick is a plus. BUT I WANT HIGH RETURN FOR BELL TOO!

[pfelix73]

So I'm asking because I do not know the answer. In what scenario does a team get 2 1st round draft picks when they transition tag a player? They just were talking about the 2 1st rounders on NFL Network, but never explained it.. thanks.

[steeler_george]

so i'm asking because i do not know the answer. In what scenario does a team get 2 1st round draft picks when they transition tag a player? They just were talking about the 2 1st rounders on nfl network, but never explained it.. Thanks.

I don't know, but there are always the R-A-I-D-E-R-S!!!!

[steeler_george]

I wonder if Bell's agent knows the answers to these questions!

[pittpete]

So I'm asking because I do not know the answer. In what scenario does a team get 2 1st round draft picks when they transition tag a player? They just were talking about the 2 1st rounders on NFL Network, but never explained it.. thanks.

If another team offered Bell a contract while he was under the exclusive tag(this year) then they'd give up two 1st rounders.

[steeler_george]

I stole this idea from another site's comment section.

We should tag Bell again in FA, even though it is for 25M. Actually money we will invest is 11M ( 14 M is rolled over from Bell's 2018 FA tag.) Then trade him for a 2nd or a better offer. His new team can renegotiate that 25M into a long term contract. If we have no trade partner's we rescind the contract, and gain that cap space.

Don't quote me but we should be well under the cap next year, regardless if we had the rolled 14 M. (Shazier comes off the books does he count as a lose in FA when calculating comp picks?) It is not as we are players in the FA, so it should be worth the risk.

[steeler_george]

If another team offered Bell a contract while he was under the exclusive tag(this year) then they'd give up two 1st rounders.

Is this why Gruden is collecting 1st round picks...

There was talk how Gruden loved Bell's game. Bell and Carr might be a good match.

[K Train]

Is this why Gruden is collecting 1st round picks...

There was talk how Gruden loved Bell's game. Bell and Carr might be a good match.

Somewhere, Jon Gruden has a boner