remember how a few weeks ago

[Steelerphile]

the steelers were excused for having a bad defense because tomlin/colbert had drafted so poorly that past 5 years and there was no talent on that side of the ball?
remember how it wasnt the coaches fault because they didnt have any players to coach up?

I guess you're implying again that Tomlin is a poor coach and an overpaid janitor. I don't think too many people were saying the Steelers have "no talent" , at least I never said that, just that their talent isn't vastly superior to every team in the league. which it isn't. But somehow Tomlin's winning percentage over 12-13 seasons is historically second only to Belichick's and the Steeler's make the playoffs the vast majority of time which most teams don't.

The season has followed a familiar script and is quite understandable. They really don't have it together early in the year because of the veterans not seeing a lot of time in preseason games and then Tomlin and the rest of crew gradually gets everything going and suddenly they start looking dominant. I think this actually shows what an outstanding coach Tomlin is and he has proven this over years, rather than the opposite.

[Captain Lemming]

I guess you're implying again that Tomlin is a poor coach and an overpaid janitor. I

No my friend he implying that Tomlin WAS a bad coach..., clear suggestion (albiet unintentionally) is that Tomlin is PRESENTLY coaching at an elite level.

[Steelerphile]

No my friend he implying that Tomlin WAS a bad coach..., clear suggestion (albiet unintentionally) is that Tomlin is PRESENTLY coaching at an elite level.

I actually think he is saying the Steelers have dominant talent and the talent is doing all the work now, which is what Tomlin haters generally fall back into. If they are not winning, it is because Tomlin isn't using the talent correctly. Tomlin never gets any credit from certain people.

[Captain Lemming]

I actually think he is saying the Steelers have dominant talent and the talent is doing all the work now, which is what Tomlin haters generally fall back into. If they are not winning, it is because Tomlin isn't using the talent correctly. Tomlin never gets any credit from certain people.

I understand what he is "trying" to say. He is Tomlin hater one.
He says they were ALWAYS talented coaching was the issue. So my point is what changed ? My point is that his own logic puts him in a corner.

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

I think Tomlin's almost unforgivable coaching deficit is allowing his teams to start so slowly, basically the whole first quarter of the year. That one or two winnable games that we didn't win makes all the difference in the world come playoff seedings time.

[squidkid]

I understand what he is "trying" to say. He is Tomlin hater one.
He says they were ALWAYS talented coaching was the issue. So my point is what changed ? My point is that his own logic puts him in a corner.

lol...wrong
im in no corner.
get with me when tomlin wins a super bowl with his players

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

lol...wrong
im in no corner.
get with me when tomlin wins a super bowl with his players

You seem so unhappy watching the Steelers, talking about the players and coaches, etc. ... I really feel for you, dude.

Sometimes when folks take a break and step away for a while they feel better about things, have you thought about that? It's supposed to be *fun* being a fan, especially when they're playing well!

[Captain Lemming]

lol...wrong
im in no corner.
get with me when tomlin wins a super bowl with his players

Hey Squid.

YOUR LOGIC, early season issues we're because Tomlin can't coach.

Players are the same.
Players are playing better.

What changed between the early season struggles and now?

[BURGH86STEEL]

lol...wrong
im in no corner.
get with me when tomlin wins a super bowl with his players

Unfortunately you don't recognize a good coach. It's your loss.

[squidkid]

Unfortunately you don't recognize a good coach. It's your loss.

sure i do. tomlin is a good regular season coach
and what exactly am i losing?

[squidkid]

Hey Squid.

YOUR LOGIC, early season issues we're because Tomlin can't coach.

Players are the same.
Players are playing better.

What changed between the early season struggles and now?

better coaching and healthy players...................what happened to the team you said had no talent and its wasnt the coaches fault early on?