What Does This Draft Tell Us About the Steelers?

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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27532

    Originally posted by NorthCoast
    Rudolph's opportunity is more likely to occur due to injury than poor play by Roethlisberger. Notice how Roethlisberger stated he would play as long as his OL was intact. That's also not a given. If he is being pounded relentlessly in a game, it could change his mind real​ quick.
    I guess but with Bell, AB, JuJu, Washington and Munchak coaching the OL I just don't see it happening.

    Ben would have to go back to his 35 sack seasons IMO. I think he finally has respect for his body and will dump it off or throw it away instead of taking 6 or 7 sacks a game.
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • Steel Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      Originally posted by NorthCoast
      Rudolph's opportunity is more likely to occur due to injury than poor play by Roethlisberger. Notice how Roethlisberger stated he would play as long as his OL was intact. That's also not a given. If he is being pounded relentlessly in a game, it could change his mind real​ quick.
      All the more reason to get the kid in camp and get him spinning the ball.

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      • SS Laser
        Pro Bowler
        • Apr 2009
        • 1929

        I agree a injury to Big Ben will be the only way to spark the next QB. I will wait to see how MR matures before I crown him the next franchise QB. Another possibility is Ben wins the super bowl and rides off into the sunset. I think MR being no more then a better back up then LJ is possible compared to Ben being traded. I would have agreed a trade is more possible if BA was still coaching.

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        • squidkid
          Legend
          • Feb 2012
          • 5847

          we learned that the steelers draft exactly like the other 31 teams in the league.
          some bpa, some value pick, some need, some bpa at a position of need, players that fit their individual schemes, but all pick who they had at the top of THEIR big board and more than likely, a combination of all or some criteria
          Last edited by squidkid; 05-04-2018, 03:19 AM.
          steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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          • Captain Lemming
            Legend
            • Jun 2008
            • 16041

            Originally posted by squidkid
            we learned that the steelers draft exactly like the other 31 teams in the league.
            some bpa, some value pick, some need, some bpa at a position of need, players that fir their individual schemes, but all pick who they had at the top of THEIR big board and more than likely, a combination of all or some criteria
            We also learned that contrary to YOUR contention they dont "reach" for need if the value aint there. THAT is why we did not draft a linebacker.
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            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

            TCFCLTC-
            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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            • squidkid
              Legend
              • Feb 2012
              • 5847

              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
              We also learned that contrary to YOUR contention they dont "reach" for need if the value aint there. THAT is why we did not draft a linebacker.
              seeing that they NEEDED a hybrid safety/linebacker to replace shazier, they did reach for one and over drafted edmunds by a round or two.
              it definitely wasnt BPA like you always say they draft
              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                Originally posted by squidkid
                seeing that they NEEDED a hybrid safety/linebacker to replace shazier, they did reach for one and over drafted edmunds by a round or two.
                it definitely wasnt BPA like you always say they draft
                Just keep spinning...

                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  We also learned that they will normally stick to their draft board...instead of "panicking" and just drafting a position if the value isn't there...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27532

                    Originally posted by squidkid
                    we learned that the steelers draft exactly like the other 31 teams in the league.
                    some bpa, some value pick, some need, some bpa at a position of need, players that fit their individual schemes, but all pick who they had at the top of THEIR big board and more than likely, a combination of all or some criteria
                    I always thought we did something else besides draft them during the draft like every other team does at the draft.

                    The constant need for you to point out how everyone else is wrong and you were right is hilarious and pathetic.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      I always thought we did something else besides draft them during the draft like every other team does at the draft.

                      The constant need for you to point out how everyone else is wrong and you were right is hilarious and pathetic.
                      The fact that he often makes stuff up to prove his point is what is hilarious...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Steel Maniac
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        Originally posted by squidkid
                        seeing that they NEEDED a hybrid safety/linebacker to replace shazier, they did reach for one and over drafted edmunds by a round or two.
                        it definitely wasnt BPA like you always say they draft
                        Based on all the data compiled, they did reach on Edmunds. I firmly believe he could have been gotten in round 2. But if he pans out to be a great player, history will not say anything about him being a reach. If he bombs, that's all history will say.

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          Based upon what data? Compiled by whom?

                          Don't teams have more data available to them than draftniks? Medical reports? Meetings and film sessions? Private workouts? Dinners? Meetings with coaches?
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27532

                            I heard a few folks talk about Justin Reid being a first rounder but others were saying they weren't that impressed with him. I wonder if he wasn't Eric Reids brother would he get this much attention?

                            I wasn't even thinking about using a safety/LB hybrid to help the D this year but it makes sense.

                            Not sure if he is legit but like I said earlier. I'm a big fan of VTech defenders. They usually play solid, have ball hawking ability and tackle well.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27532

                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              Based upon what data? Compiled by whom?

                              Don't teams have more data available to them than draftniks? Medical reports? Meetings and film sessions? Private workouts? Dinners? Meetings with coaches?
                              the same data that has Mike Tomlin being fired by the minority owners after this season.

                              the same data that told him Dobbs wasn't viewed as a running QB coming our of college.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • Northern_Blitz
                                Legend
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24373

                                Originally posted by Slapstick
                                We also learned that they will normally stick to their draft board...instead of "panicking" and just drafting a position if the value isn't there...
                                This. I don't think that the Steelers care what grade they get from Kipe and the other "draft experts". They do their scouting and have their board. And they usually do a reasonably good job.

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