What Does This Draft Tell Us About the Steelers?

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  • Donnieboy
    Benchwarmer
    • Mar 2018
    • 90

    #91
    Getting back to this original post, "What Does This Draft Tell Us About the Steelers?"....

    Steelers GM Kevin Colbert said Rudolph was considered by Pittsburgh in "the group of the top quarterbacks"

    ...it tells us the FO and coaching staff feel as if they have gotten one of the best QB's in this draft. And elite/franchise QB.

    And like their gonna sit on that for 3-5 years. SMH!

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    • Donnieboy
      Benchwarmer
      • Mar 2018
      • 90

      #92
      Originally posted by Sugar
      I'm completely cool with that. He could be playing at a high level and the team could still fall short. Heck, that's the norm.
      Part of the falling short will be in the fact that they will continue to be cap strapped. What ever level he plays at it is certain that there will be some kind of decline 38, 39, and 40 years of age. That's a norm.

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #93
        Originally posted by Donnieboy
        So you are ok with extending his contract another 3 years at $30 million each?...for ages 38, 39, and 40? And are you are still doing this if he falls short (championship), another year?

        Let's be very clear here. Ben Roethlisberger is not Tom Brady. What Tom Brady is doing is not the norm. The exception. The norm is more like Peyton Manning breaking down physically as well as performance wise.
        Absolutely.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #94
          Originally posted by Donnieboy
          Getting back to this original post, "What Does This Draft Tell Us About the Steelers?"....

          Steelers GM Kevin Colbert said Rudolph was considered by Pittsburgh in "the group of the top quarterbacks"

          ...it tells us the FO and coaching staff feel as if they have gotten one of the best QB's in this draft. And elite/franchise QB.

          And like their gonna sit on that for 3-5 years. SMH!

          If Ben is still playing at a high level? Yes, they will sit Rudolph for 3 years
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 24373

            #95
            Originally posted by Donnieboy
            Getting back to this original post, "What Does This Draft Tell Us About the Steelers?"....

            Steelers GM Kevin Colbert said Rudolph was considered by Pittsburgh in "the group of the top quarterbacks"

            ...it tells us the FO and coaching staff feel as if they have gotten one of the best QB's in this draft. And elite/franchise QB.

            And like their gonna sit on that for 3-5 years. SMH!

            I think that this draft also shows that they're OK lying in public.

            Bryant did get traded.

            I don't think that they viewed Rudolph as one of the best QBs in the draft if they didn't take him in the 1st or 2nd.

            But, both comments make sense because they were made in support of guys that were on the roster when the comments were made.

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            • Sugar
              Hall of Famer
              • Oct 2008
              • 3700

              #96
              Originally posted by Donnieboy
              Part of the falling short will be in the fact that they will continue to be cap strapped. What ever level he plays at it is certain that there will be some kind of decline 38, 39, and 40 years of age. That's a norm.
              Even with some decline, Ben is an experienced franchise QB that will still be worth the price. Fact is, they aren't parting ways with him aside from some kind of injury or an unforeseen complete drop off a cliff in production. The good news is that maybe some team will be willing to give us something good for the young guy holding the clipboard.

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              • Buzz
                Legend
                • Dec 2017
                • 8379

                #97
                Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                I think that this draft also shows that they're OK lying in public.

                Bryant did get traded.

                I don't think that they viewed Rudolph as one of the best QBs in the draft if they didn't take him in the 1st or 2nd.

                But, both comments make sense because they were made in support of guys that were on the roster when the comments were made.
                Smartest post in this whole thread.

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                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  I think that this draft also shows that they're OK lying in public.

                  Bryant did get traded.

                  I don't think that they viewed Rudolph as one of the best QBs in the draft if they didn't take him in the 1st or 2nd.

                  But, both comments make sense because they were made in support of guys that were on the roster when the comments were made.
                  Actually, I do believe them when they say that they had Rudolph rated as high as the other QBs...if Ben had retired, we may have seen Rudolph drafted in the first by the Steelers...

                  People say "BPA at a position of need"...is there a time when value can trump that axiom? I think, yes...somewhere around round 3 with a franchise caliber QB...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                  • Donnieboy
                    Benchwarmer
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 90

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                    ...I don't think that they viewed Rudolph as one of the best QBs in the draft if they didn't take him in the 1st or 2nd.
                    Not so. If they are trying to win now a QB who is going to sit for awhile is not nearly as pressing as getting a player at a position who fills an immediate need. There were many who had Rudolph graded out as a first round pick.

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                    • Donnieboy
                      Benchwarmer
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 90

                      Originally posted by Slapstick
                      Actually, I do believe them when they say that they had Rudolph rated as high as the other QBs...if Ben had retired, we may have seen Rudolph drafted in the first by the Steelers...

                      People say "BPA at a position of need"...is there a time when value can trump that axiom? I think, yes...somewhere around round 3 with a franchise caliber QB...
                      Great post! Agreed.

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                      • Steel Maniac
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 19472

                        I too believe the management when they say that they considered rudolph as good as the other 5 who went ahead of him because so did I! And I made no bones about it.

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                        • flippy
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 17088

                          Anyone remember when the Steelers said they had a 1st round grade on Trai Essex?
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                          • Buzz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 8379

                            Originally posted by flippy
                            Anyone remember when the Steelers said they had a 1st round grade on Trai Essex?
                            I'm sure a sizeable number of fans believed them back then.

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27532

                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              Absolutely.
                              Ben threw for 5TD’s and like 500 yards vs the Jags.

                              That isnt the norm.

                              Ben has a bunch of passing records, he isn’t the norm IMO.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • NorthCoast
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 26636

                                Rudolph's opportunity is more likely to occur due to injury than poor play by Roethlisberger. Notice how Roethlisberger stated he would play as long as his OL was intact. That's also not a given. If he is being pounded relentlessly in a game, it could change his mind real​ quick.

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