Game Over...Lamar Jackson...Ravens

[Ernie]

Ooo...Football Outsiders....

You question the source... what specifically do you not agree with? Was the passer efficiency wrong? lol

[Slapstick]

You question the source... what specifically do you not agree with? Was the passer efficiency wrong? lol

The dude was good enough to lead his team to a SB...Chip Kelly’s offense failed in Philly, too...

[Ernie]

The last few posts mentioned several QBs... including Kapernick. I see Kap as one of those guys who was primarily a runner. Sure, he had his 15 minutes of fame. It was short lived, though.

While you boys are busy "Word-smithing"... I'm going to go back to my original quote. Kap was primarily a runner. Im not going to spend the day arguing over BS. Too much to do. You boys have a good day.

[Slapstick]

Don’t be afraid to debate!

[Captain Lemming]

I was making a generalization. Don't know much about Lamar Jackson. Your analysis of him may very well be on point. If that's the case, he may very well be a pain in our a$$ for years to come lol.

I repeat as I said earlier. Nevermind "overall" success. I dont want the next Mike Vick as Steeler QB either. BUT......
"Running QBs" even as narrowly defined as you state have ALWAYS been a pain for OUR defense.
I think it is because we rely so much on situational lineups.

For evample, when we fear a running QB we are caught overcompensating for his ability to run and they have career passing games versus us.
Our pass rush is more basic and tentative, we fear opening up lanes if a blitzer misses etc.
Our DBs are caught off guard "peeking"into the backfield.

Yes, we have Butler now but we still rely so much on situational substitutions.

If a running QB passes regularly on run downs, we have no answer.
Heck it would be worse now because if we are forced to respect the pass, our run defense is far more suspect than in years past.

I DONT like a skilled running QB in our division at all.

[Captain Lemming]

Interesting stat. Mike Vick threw for more TDs against the Steelers in only FOUR GAMES (rare NFC foe) than he threw versus all but two other NFL teams (Cowboys and Redskins who were in his division when he was with Philly).

He threw more TDs versus us than versus ANY other team including other teams his own conference and even divisions who he played far more frequently.

With the possible exception of the Redskins, he passed more effectively versus us than any other team during a time when we had an elite pass defense.

[Captain Lemming]

Interesting stat. Mike Vick threw for more TDs against the Steelers in only FOUR GAMES (rare NFC foe) than he threw versus all but two other NFL teams (Cowboys and Redskins who were in his division when he was with Philly).

He threw more TDs versus us than versus ANY other team including other teams his own conference and even divisions who he played far more frequently.

Tim Tebow had the most passing yards, most total run/pass yards, and accounted for more touchdowns during the one game he played versus us than any other game in his career.
BTW, we led the league in pass defense and total defense that year.
TIM stinkin TEBOW.......the only QB to pass for 300 yards on us all season.

We beat Brady (who went to the SB) and held him to under 200 yards that same season.

[Captain Lemming]

Don’t be afraid to debate!

Another one might just block you man.

[Slapstick]

Another one might just block you man.

Whatever will I do?

[Captain Lemming]

Whatever will I do?

You would deserve it you are such a meanie!!!

[feltdizz]

I'm going to cut and paste a few paragraphs for you to reconsider:

What does the game film show?
It would be disingenuous to take the position that Kaepernick is not a uniquely talented quarterback. He's an incredibly gifted athlete with Superhero-like physical attributes that infamously led ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski to predict all-time greatness in the halcyon days of the 2013 read-option craze.
A cannon arm should grant Kaepernick the ability to make all of the NFL throws. With each passing season, though, it becomes more and more obvious that Kaepernick is a limited passer lacking the requisite touch, accuracy, anticipation and situational awareness of a franchise quarterback. By Thanksgiving of last season, all throws to wide receivers outside the numbers and downfield had vanished from the 49ers offense -- an ostensible concession from then-coach Chip Kelly that Kaepernick simply can't make those all-important throws with any degree of consistency.
As impressive as Kaepernick's 16:4 touchdown-to-interception ratio might seem without context, it reflects a remedial signal-caller being asked to make the simplest reads and easiest throws. A quintessential "see-it, throw-it" passer, Kaepernick waits for his targets to separate from coverage rather than anticipating the route and throwing his receivers open. As a natural byproduct of that playing style, third downs devolved into a wasteland of drive-killing sacks and ineffectual passes short of the sticks
Over the past three years, Kaepernick has ranked 30th, 34th and 29th in Football Outsiders' passing efficiency metrics -- and just fractionally better in Gregg Rosenthal's QB Index.

Its definitely possible Kaep didn’t have what it takes. However, that franchise also went from first to worst in 3 years and imo the FO is to blame. They lost a ton of talent and fired Harbaugh and hired who? Then Chip Kelly came thru and proved he wasn’t fit for the pros.