Bell...AGAIN!

[feltdizz]

Wow, I got nuthin man.
I mean when you COMPLETELY CHANGE THE ARGUMENT you are so good at fooling yourself into thinking you make sense.

Oh, have you forgotten what point you made that I disputed and crushed Dizz?

I responded to your post about QBs over 35.
I destroyed YOUR POINT which was about quarterbacks by pointing out that a DISPROPORTIONATLY LARGE number of QBs are among the leagues elite. Just sweeping that point under the rug aren’t we Dizz?

I “added” an additionally wholly accurate point that NOT ONE BACK IN THE LEAGUE over 30 had 1000 yards. My accurate point was that QBs age WAY better than runningbacks.

You proceed to call me a “liar” because ONE GUY in the league today “had” 1000 yard seasons over 30. Come on Dizz don’t play dense, you KNOW I was talking about last season 2017.

Sure Dizz there have been other backs during the history of the league who had 1000 yards seasons over 30.

Then you change MY premise to try to make your point. I correctly pointed out that there are no backs in the NFL over 30 who have 1000 yards. I am correct I what “I” said.

Sure, Bell is 26. “I” never said anything about Bell being “done” at 26 did I?

But you and I BOTH know he ain’t signing no 3 year deal Dizz, so your point is moot.

My points? All perfectly valid.

Talk to me about how right you are about QBs over 35 or backs over 30 and you would have something but right now you got nothin my friend.

wait, so you want to use one year of stats to prove your point even tho most of those backs have shown they were productive over 30? Lmao... who does that? That’s THEE worst way to use data.


and why would I talk about RB’s over 30 when Bell just turned 26?

Thats like talking about QB’s over 40 when discussing Ben’s future.

My point with QB’s over 35 is the data for ALL QB’s over 35 over the years isn’t kind.

My other point is GREAT PLAYERS aren’t the norm so they always push the boundaries of averages off a cliff.

Dorsnt matter if any RB’s had over a thousand yard last year. Great backs have done it before AND since Bell is only 26, it doesn’t even matter. At most we would use Bell for 4 more years.

Who the hell uses one year of data as proof? WTH? That’s not how data works buddy.

[Slapstick]

And this one:



QBs and WRs have the most seasons within 80% of peak performance while RBs have a lot fewer...also, a WR at age 31 is almost as exactly as productive as they were at age 27...

This is why the RB position has been devalued...this is why giving Bell $17 million per year is a worse investment than giving Brown $17 million per year...

[steelz09]

I think Bell's career will look a lot like Eddie George which is a pretty damn good complement.

George's best years were his first 5. His actually best was his 5th at the age of 27.

He did have a comeback year at 29 and then fell off. If I recall, his career ended due to turf toe.. not saying that means anything in the Bell comparison.

Do you think Bell would accept a 3-year / 51 million deal with the first two years guaranteed? That's 17 million / year.

Would you all be in favor of that?

I don't even think Bell would accept that deal for some reason.

[Captain Lemming]

why would I talk about RB’s over 30 when Bell just turned 26?

Thats like talking about QB’s over 40 when discussing Ben’s future.

My point with QB’s over 35 is the data for ALL QB’s over 35 over the years isn’t kind.

My other point is GREAT PLAYERS aren’t the norm so they always push the boundaries of averages off a cliff.

Dorsnt matter if any RB’s had over a thousand yard last year. Great backs have done it before AND since Bell is only 26, it doesn’t even matter. At most we would use Bell for 4 more years.

Who the hell uses one year of data as proof? WTH? That’s not how data works buddy.

I get what you are saying.
THIS is why it matters Dizz.
You point to results that are FAR from typical THAT is why the fact that looking at one season has merit.

As far as Bell being 26....your best point......Bell has all of ONE season that did not end with injury Dizz. It is ridiculous to “bet” that he will be the rare back who is the statistical anomaly when he is among the most consistently injured players in the league.

Bell ain’t settling for no short deal without “testing the market” first. AP had a 7 year deal. Bell wants the biggest deal a back has ever had, 5 years at least. He ain’t signing no short deal. Any deal he is willing to sign WILL take him into his 30s, beyond the typical effective years for as back.

My biggest beef about paying Bell is because high priced backs are poor investments because they don’t bring you championships in todays NFL.

If they DID we would ALREADY have rings because we HAVE been without peer in that regard.

[Steel Maniac]

Not since Marshall Faulk.

[pittpete]

Bottom line is Bell is a moron for not signing a long term deal.
He's betting on himself because of his huge ego.

[feltdizz]

I get what you are saying.
THIS is why it matters Dizz.
You point to results that are FAR from typical THAT is why the fact that looking at one season has merit.

As far as Bell being 26....your best point......Bell has all of ONE season that did not end with injury Dizz. It is ridiculous to “bet” that he will be the rare back who is the statistical anomaly when he is among the most consistently injured players in the league.

Bell ain’t settling for no short deal without “testing the market” first. AP had a 7 year deal. Bell wants the biggest deal a back has ever had, 5 years at least. He ain’t signing no short deal. Any deal he is willing to sign WILL take him into his 30s, beyond the typical effective years for as back.

My biggest beef about paying Bell is because high priced backs are poor investments because they don’t bring you championships in todays NFL.

If they DID we would ALREADY have rings because we HAVE been without peer in that regard.

But Bell wasn’t injured LAST year *wink, wink*

We have no idea what the future holds but a 5 year deal would be perfect.... as long as we move him that last year.

I dont think it will take 17 mill per year to get that deal done.

[Steel Maniac]

Bottom line is Bell is a moron for not signing a long term deal.
He's betting on himself because of his huge ego.

Hahahaha hahahaha...Pitt, you sounding like Squid. Hahahahaha

[pittpete]

If he has a career ending injury this year then its over..
If he tears an acl, his dreams of a big $$$ contract are most likely over.
Theres no injury guarantee so betting on himself once again is not a smart play.
I don't know what the dope above you said because he's on my ignore list but when we gave Brown the big $$$ i said Bell was more valuable to the team long term than Brown.
Of course he disagreed and now his man love for Bell is more pathetic than his trolling....LOL

[Steel Maniac]

If he has a career ending injury this year then its over..
If he tears an acl, his dreams of a big $$$ contract are most likely over.
Theres no injury guarantee so betting on himself once again is not a smart play.
I don't know what the dope above you said because he's on my ignore list but when we gave Brown the big $$$ i said Bell was more valuable to the team long term than Brown.
Of course he disagreed and now his man love for Bell is more pathetic than his trolling....LOL

I don't know what he said either because he's on my ignore list too. His constant Bell trolling is sad. He follows people around who talk about Bell like a lost puppy. I don't know what's wrong with him. It's called a "bromance". He and Bell have a bromance. LOL

[feltdizz]

Lmao... name calling and accusations while taking every chance they can to bash Bell who is still a Steeler at the moment.

Gotta love this place. Folks have me on ignore and still worry about me.

[Northern_Blitz]

And this one:



QBs and WRs have the most seasons within 80% of peak performance while RBs have a lot fewer...also, a WR at age 31 is almost as exactly as productive as they were at age 27...

This is why the RB position has been devalued...this is why giving Bell $17 million per year is a worse investment than giving Brown $17 million per year...

Especially since Bell is 26 and the sharp decline on that graph starts at 27.

This is why I was saying that it sucks for RBs that they can be kept from UFA for 7 years. Essentially, if they're good they can be kept away from UFA until they are expected to start the big decline.

[Slapstick]

Lmao... name calling and accusations while taking every chance they can to bash Bell who is still a Steeler at the moment.

Gotta love this place. Folks have me on ignore and still worry about me.

Yep. Put you on the ignore list and then talk $#!+ about you...

[feltdizz]

Yep. Put you on the ignore list and then talk $#!+ about you...

The ole “La La La, I can’t hear you” trick.

[pittpete]

Yep. Put you on the ignore list and then talk $#!+ about you...

Be careful, you're next....