Haden Rumor

[Ernie]

He was lock down until he played zone. He struggled in the zone a few times but overall he was a pretty impressive #1 CB.


Teams didnt throw to his side that much in man (at least that’s who it appeared) and I think it’s also why Burns was burned more often.

Why go at Haden when you can pick on Burns?

I say restructure and keep him.

Exactly right... he was brought in to improve our "Man defense"... in which he certainly did that. You also make my point perfectly with the statement "Why go at Haden when you can pick on Burns?"...

[Ernie]

and everyone on this board has a tendency to overrate steelers players at times

Haden is a #1 for us because we don't have much at CB,IMO

Lets see if anyone on here will support your ideas on Haden... Im open to the discussion. There were over a dozen teams wanting him when he was cut from CLE. That speaks volumes in itself.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

i really don't care if they do or not. I give my opinions and other people give theirs

it's a message board

[Ernie]

And I respect that. I think you are wrong (as do many others)... that's simply my opinion though. No disrespect intended.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

none taken

like I said, I believe Haden to be a solid starter. whos to say Sutton can't be that for alot less

it's probably a moot point anyway as I doubt he goes anywhere

[Ernie]

none taken

like I said, I believe Haden to be a solid starter. whos to say Sutton can't be that for alot less

He didn't draw the interest he did from over a dozen teams... to be their #2. Not at 9+ million a year. Sutton and Burns can compete for the #2. Sutton's nowhere near Haden's level right now either....

[Eddie Spaghetti]

when i think #1 CBs I think of guys like Jacksonville has. true playmakers

also, if haden was as good as everyone here seems to believe, why would the team ask him to take a paycut?

[pittpete]

Everyone on this board (other than maybe yourself) sees him as a solid #1, and BY FAR the best CB currently on the roster.

Haden is not the problem on defense...IMO he's a solid CB that suffered an unfortunate injury.

[Ernie]

when i think #1 CBs I think of guys like Jacksonville has. true playmakers

also, if haden was as good as everyone here seems to believe, why would the team ask him to take a paycut?

Jacksonville's CB (Ramsey) is arguably the best in the league.
As for asking Haden to take a "Pay cut"... or restructure...they are asking him for the same reason they asked DeCastro and Tuitt... the same reason they will likely ask Ben to restructure...etc.

[Steel Maniac]

I would prefer we restructure and keep him.

I’m not a fan of moving on from really good players in hopes of acquiring really good players.

I too would like to restructure because it has been hard for us to find competent cornerback play and we have a decent to good one in Haden. If we were as adept at drafting cornerbacks as we are with wide receivers, then I'd think differently but we've been terrible at drafting cornerbacks. So lets keep the best one we have and hope to improve either thru free agency or the draft.

[Steel Maniac]

Jacksonville's CB (Ramsey) is arguably the best in the league.
As for asking Haden to take a "Pay cut"... or restructure...they are asking him for the same reason they asked DeCastro and Tuitt... the same reason they will likely ask Ben to restructure...etc.

Ben and Antonio Brown are both about to get 5 mil & 6 mil roster bonuses respectively. WIth that said, I'd love to see them both restructure. They are being treated well so I'd like to see them do something that will give us financial options.

[Steel Maniac]

He was lock down until he played zone. He struggled in the zone a few times but overall he was a pretty impressive #1 CB.


Teams didnt throw to his side that much in man (at least that’s who it appeared) and I think it’s also why Burns was burned more often.

Why go at Haden when you can pick on Burns?

I say restructure and keep him.

Yeah, he did struggle in zone. We need to go way less zone going forward. You play to the players you have strengths. And doing more man allows us to be better against the upper echelon passers in the league (Brees, Brady, Rodgers). Running QB's you play more zone.

[Ernie]

I too would like to restructure because it has been hard for us to find competent cornerback play and we have a decent to good one in Haden. If we as adept at drafting cornerbacks as we are with wide receivers, then I'd think differently but we've been terrible at drafting cornerbacks. So lets keep the best one we have and hope to improve either thru free agency or the draft.

Honestly, I think if we keep Haden... we are pretty solid with what we've got. Need to replace Mitchell. Other than that, we have 4 talented young guys (Burns, Davis, Sutton, Allen) that should all improve in 2018.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

Jacksonville's CB (Ramsey) is arguably the best in the league.
As for asking Haden to take a "Pay cut"... or restructure...they are asking him for the same reason they asked DeCastro and Tuitt... the same reason they will likely ask Ben to restructure...etc.

and I don't know if that's the case or not. the guys you mention are cornerstone type players and I'm sure the steelers believe they will be great players for a few more years. that's why they are willing to kick the can down the road eith those players. it is possible the steelers just don't believe he is worth the 9 mill

not like I hope he gets cut, just saying I also don't believe he is a top flight CB at this point in his career

[Ernie]

and I don't know if that's the case or not. the guys you mention are cornerstone type players and I'm sure the steelers believe they will be great players for a few more years. that's why they are willing to kick the can down the road eith those players. it is possible the steelers just don't believe he is worth the 9 mill

not like I hope he gets cut, just saying I also don't believe he is a top flight CB at this point in his career

Possible, but unlikely. Haden made 2 pro bowls while playing on the perennial worst team in the league, and was having a great year this year with us prior to breaking his leg (despite not attending training camp with us). I think most would agree with your previous assertion that he is not J. Ramsey or A. Buoye at this point in his career. Of course it could also be argued that both of those guys are in the top 2-3 CBs in the league.