James Harrison ...

[Captain Lemming]

I still can't believe it played out like this with Harrison.

Is it really worth it to him to tarnish his legacy in Pittsburgh? Play a few games and get a ring that he barely had anything to do with?

Stupid IMO.

He is not a "fan" he is a player. This is his job.

The only question of his "legacy" is whether he get a gold jacket.

His actions did nothing but increase his chances at real "legacy" my friend.

Contributing to a third SB enhances his chances. A big game or memorable play guarantees it.

[feltdizz]

Right... but the fact remains...in that he matched/exceeded our combined OLBs production from the week before (against the same competition)... with a fraction of the snaps.

well, if our ILB's/DB's covered those crossing routes like the Pats in the second half I think our OLB's get there. Watt was close a few times but if your are throwing to wide open players it doesn't matter.

We didn't make the adjustments on D in the second half to give our OLB's enough time to get to Bortles. JH wouldn't have been an impact player because when the QB is throwing to wide open players in the flat it doesn't matter.

[Slapstick]

A "professional" would be denied the opportunity to do anything to contribute to his team's pursuit of a championship. He would forever be frustrated wondering if HE could have made a difference while watching the SB from his couch.

The team is bigger than one player...just like Blount, James acted out...the coaches did what they thought was best for the team...

Did they manage Harrison's hurt feelings very well? No...

Was it their job to manage Harrison's hurt feelings? Not at what they felt was the expense of the team...

I understand that he was frustrated. But, he made it about him and not the team.

[feltdizz]

The team is bigger than one player...just like Blount, James acted out...the coaches did what they thought was best for the team...

Did they manage Harrison's hurt feelings very well? No...

Was it their job to manage Harrison's hurt feelings? Not at what they felt was the expense of the team...

I understand that he was frustrated. But, he made it about him and not the team.

I get both sides..

but when you are winning 8 games in a row I can see how the coaches think they made the right decision.

I'm not mad at either side... just mad at fans who are rooting for the Pats* because JH is playing for them. I think it's a cheap way to jump on the bandwagon.

[williar]

The "right" thing should have been if he really was not able to help your team, he should have never made the 53 man roster or should have been cut shortly thereafter. Did it take the coaching staff 15 games into the season to see that JH was useless to them and this was not going to end well? All the while they tied up a spot that could have been used to coach up another young LB with some potential that could have been producing for the team.

To be honest, I can't remember a transaction of a veteran player who was once so valuable to your franchise be so publically botched, as this...

[Steel Maniac]

botched is the correct word.

[ikestops85]

I really think the entire issue could have been avoided. Just tell the truth. If the Steelers would have acted like a professional organization and when they presented JH with a contract tell him that he was going to be an insurance policy. He wouldn't play unless someone got hurt or TJ crapped the bed. Period. Then if Harrison signs it it's on him ... but they didn't do that. They lied to him by telling him he would get playing time but they never planned to use him. That's a pretty bad move for an organization that is thought of as being classy. I'm disappointed in them for doing that. I don't think it would have hurt them to get him in for a couple series a game.

Now, on Harrison's part I understand he's pi$$ed but that doesn't give him the right to act like a little kid and disrupt everything. I'm surprised the Steelers put up with it for as long as they did. Poor behavior on both sides but if the cards would have been laid out on the table from the beginning the whole mess would have been avoided.

[feltdizz]

I really think the entire issue could have been avoided. Just tell the truth. If the Steelers would have acted like a professional organization and when they presented JH with a contract tell him that he was going to be an insurance policy. He wouldn't play unless someone got hurt or TJ crapped the bed. Period. Then if Harrison signs it it's on him ... but they didn't do that. They lied to him by telling him he would get playing time but they never planned to use him. That's a pretty bad move for an organization that is thought of as being classy. I'm disappointed in them for doing that. I don't think it would have hurt them to get him in for a couple series a game.

Now, on Harrison's part I understand he's pi$$ed but that doesn't give him the right to act like a little kid and disrupt everything. I'm surprised the Steelers put up with it for as long as they did. Poor behavior on both sides but if the cards would have been laid out on the table from the beginning the whole mess would have been avoided.

I honestly think we planned to use him but once Watt showed his range and knowledge of the game I think it messed up their plan for JH.

They probably could have released him much earlier but rookie wall is a thing so they held onto him. Somewhere during the sign I think it went from "I understand" to "I'm seriously upset about playing time" to "screw y'all"

I mean.. it's not like we stopped paying him but I get his frustration. I'm not mad at either side because it's still a business.

[Captain Lemming]

The team is bigger than one player...just like Blount, James acted out...the coaches did what they thought was best for the team...

Did they manage Harrison's hurt feelings very well? No...

Was it their job to manage Harrison's hurt feelings? Not at what they felt was the expense of the team...

I understand that he was frustrated. But, he made it about him and not the team.

Dude Brown gets missed whenn he was open ONE TIME and he goes berzerk.

Deebo has been "cut" by this team FIVE TIMES.
For FOUR STRAIGHT SEASONS prior to this one he played good soldier when the team tried to limit him to start the season.
The last three seasons prior to this one, he ended the season EASILY our best outside linebacker.

Each season he starts the season, underutilized, and as his snap count goes up, so do the wins.
He accepted this every season as a good teammate, KNOWING he was better than those ahead of him.

This season........after being disrespected all this time, they decide to give him no meaningful pt coming off a playoff where he was AS EFFECTIVE AS ANY OLBer IN THE LEAGUE.

People that is the last straw.

It is not just about his "feelings" this team has been "stupid" about JHs value for YEARS.

Dude is an old man who works LIKE A BEAST to be able to excel in a young mans game, and we dont let him "compete" for PT?

Team first? This year he happily "mentored" his replacement TJ as well as that liar Dupree who got no business dissing the legend with his sorry play (dont make me drop the video proof again)

After all that, YEARS of being team first dude has reason to "act out" .

Heck, Brown get missed by Ben ONCE and he loses his mind. This thing with Deebo took YEARS to boil over.

[Captain Lemming]

I was so excited when we drafted TJ. I envisioned a sweet rotation.
I really see Deebo as being old 2008 Deebo in spots (Miami playoff game), I just think he wouldnt be able to sustain that level.

If TJ rotated out more I dont see him hitting the rookie wall like he did.
Deebo could have played short yardage, more snaps against running teams ect.

What if early season TJ was in the playoffs?

[Buzz]

I was so excited when we drafted TJ. I envisioned a sweet rotation.
I really see Deebo as being old 2008 Deebo in spots (Miami playoff game), I just think he wouldnt be able to sustain that level.

If TJ rotated out more I dont see him hitting the rookie wall like he did.
Deebo could have played short yardage, more snaps against running teams ect.

What if early season TJ was in the playoffs?

You make too much sense.

[Steel Maniac]

I was so excited when we drafted TJ. I envisioned a sweet rotation.
I really see Deebo as being old 2008 Deebo in spots (Miami playoff game), I just think he wouldnt be able to sustain that level.

If TJ rotated out more I dont see him hitting the rookie wall like he did.
Deebo could have played short yardage, more snaps against running teams ect.

What if early season TJ was in the playoffs?

Great call.

[Slapstick]

Dude Brown gets missed whenn he was open ONE TIME and he goes berzerk.

Deebo has been "cut" by this team FIVE TIMES.
For FOUR STRAIGHT SEASONS prior to this one he played good soldier when the team tried to limit him to start the season.
The last three seasons prior to this one, he ended the season EASILY our best outside linebacker.

Each season he starts the season, underutilized, and as his snap count goes up, so do the wins.
He accepted this every season as a good teammate, KNOWING he was better than those ahead of him.

This season........after being disrespected all this time, they decide to give him no meaningful pt coming off a playoff where he was AS EFFECTIVE AS ANY OLBer IN THE LEAGUE.

People that is the last straw.

It is not just about his "feelings" this team has been "stupid" about JHs value for YEARS.

Dude is an old man who works LIKE A BEAST to be able to excel in a young mans game, and we dont let him "compete" for PT?

Team first? This year he happily "mentored" his replacement TJ as well as that liar Dupree who got no business dissing the legend with his sorry play (dont make me drop the video proof again)

After all that, YEARS of being team first dude has reason to "act out" .

Heck, Brown get missed by Ben ONCE and he loses his mind. This thing with Deebo took YEARS to boil over.

Please, don’t pretend like what Brown did and what Harrison did were somehow equal.

Brown threw a temper tantrum on the sidelines one time.

Harrison acted out long enough that the team finally released him so that he could get his own way.

I’ve already said that the coaches could have managed his feelings better. But, I’ve also said that managing the team is the bigger priority.

Whether or not Bud Dupree sucked in the playoffs has no impact on whether or not he was telling the truth. Heck, perhaps if Harrison had mentored him, he wouldn’t have sucked. And, yes, I saw your one video. Just because I’m not speeding when I pass a cop doesn’t mean that I’m not speeding my @$$ off every other time I’m driving.

Yes, the stuff with Harrison built up for YEARS. And, yet, he signed a contract with the team. I don’t care if it built up for years, he was an unprofessional schmuck. Period. There is no debating this.

Harrison put himself above the team, during practices and during meetings (not games though!) ALL WEEK. Getting pissed and knocking over a Gatorade jug once is not equivalent. In the words of Jules Pitt, “It’s not the same ball park, it’s not the same league, it’s not even the same £¥€<!~? sport!”

Even if the Harrison situation was a badly mangled as you say, he is still a turd for acting the way he did.

[feltdizz]

Are we really going to act like a temper tantrum on the sideline is worse than sleeping in meetings? C’mon

One is passion for the game and the other is a total disrespect for the preparation of the game.

..and I know, I know, why peep for games you won’t play in but injuries happen.

[Captain Lemming]

Are we really going to act like a temper tantrum on the sideline is worse than sleeping in meetings? CÂ’mon

One is passion for the game and the other is a total disrespect for the preparation of the game.

..and I know, I know, why peep for games you wonÂ’t play in but injuries happen.

You are ABSOLUTELY right there is no comparison.

BROWN was the most overthrown to receiver in the NFL.
A guy Ben was throwing PICKS because of forcing the ball to him while double covered.
Brown had absolutely ZERO reason to go into a hissy fit because Ben missed the fact that he was open ONCE.

Deebo had YEARS of doing the right thing while being undervalued. Every year he "proved" his worth and was fine "earning" every minute of his pt......like he was a stinkin free agent rookie again.

Deebo FINALLY "tuned out" after being "inactive" for multiple games.
This guy was the best OLBer in the league in the playoffs LAST YEAR.
Inactive!
You telling me a team that gets abused repeatedly by runners has no value in their best run stopping OLBer?

Cut FIVE TIMES by this team my friend AND treated like he was "done" to start FOUR STRAIGHT SEASONS.

Did he demand to start? No.

All he wanted was the chance to COMPETE for pt. Is THAT too much for a "competitor" to ask?
Should he be OK KNOWING YET AGAIN he might make a difference but now is not even given a real chance?

Was he acting out. Yes.
Was he acting unprofessionally? Absolutely!
Was he FINALLY being selfish? You know it.
Once cut did he sign with a team we all despise? Yup.

I DONT BLAME HIM ONE BIT.