Dupree

[RuthlessBurgher]

It just gets better and better. Boy that Kevin Colbert is a genius too huh? He and Tomlin have done a great , great job the last decade. What a team.

Wow...first the whining is about how the Steelers are wasting the most talented roster in the NFL, and now bitching about how Colbert and Tomlin build their team. Exactly where do you think those talented players came from?

[squidkid]

Porter sucks. Guy needs to go. Need a teacher and technician not a rah rah guy

so you are saying tomlin needs to go or is that acceptable for your head coach?

[Shoe]

Maybe we hire Deebo to replace him AGAIN............. when he stopped "mentoring" the youngsters suddenly began to digress.
He can go all military style coaching on them.

This is exactly what we don't need. I'm sure that is Porter's way too, to dictate (like a military) to the players. Position coaching is about teaching... you don't see Munchak hootin' and hollering. You need a guy who makes players ask questions, who gives them real-world practice, and who gives fair and transparent assessments. Porter has no idea of any of that.

[Captain Lemming]

This is exactly what we don't need. I'm sure that is Porter's way too, to dictate (like a military) to the players. Position coaching is about teaching... you don't see Munchak hootin' and hollering. You need a guy who makes players ask questions, who gives them real-world practice, and who gives fair and transparent assessments. Porter has no idea of any of that.

You to me seriously?
Shoe my friend do you know what the "stir-pot" imoji means?

[Oviedo]

Maybe we hire Deebo to replace him AGAIN............. when he stopped "mentoring" the youngsters suddenly began to digress.
He can go all military style coaching on them.

You don't reward treason

[SS Laser]

I am on the fence with Dupree for sure. He looked better as a pass rusher before going to the guru last off season.
Also I don't know the stats for him dropping into coverage.
Watt dropped most for a LB I read somewhere. Seems more 4-3 with so much LB coverage and DL men with the bigger sack numbers now?
Also bleacher report ranking has Watt and Dupree right next to each other in there ranking with stats they pick out very close to each other. So not sure about him. Give him another season to see how it goes.

[Steel Maniac]

Wow...first the whining is about how the Steelers are wasting the most talented roster in the NFL, and now bitching about how Colbert and Tomlin build their team. Exactly where do you think those talented players came from?

Ruth, I’m being sarcastic. But the complaining about the waste of talent is not a joke.

[Steel Maniac]

I am on the fence with Dupree for sure. He looked better as a pass rusher before going to the guru last off season.
Also I don't know the stats for him dropping into coverage.
Watt dropped most for a LB I read somewhere. Seems more 4-3 with so much LB coverage and DL men with the bigger sack numbers now?
Also bleacher report ranking has Watt and Dupree right next to each other in there ranking with stats they pick out very close to each other. So not sure about him. Give him another season to see how it goes.

We have no choice but to see because we really don’t know how much he’s called to drop in coverage. We really don’t. Only way we’ll know anything is to talk to coaches and get their assessment of him.

[Slapstick]

According to Steel City Underground, Dupree dropped into coverage more than 16% of his snaps (minimum of 400 snaps) and that was 8th most of any edge defender...of the players who dropped into coverage as much or more than Dupree, only two had more sacks (Watt being one of them)...

Of the top sack leaders, only one dropped into coverage more than 5% of the time...and he dropped less than 6%...

[NorthCoast]

According to Steel City Underground, Dupree dropped into coverage more than 16% of his snaps (minimum of 400 snaps) and that was 8th most of any edge defender...of the players who dropped into coverage as much or more than Dupree, only two had more sacks (Watt being one of them)...

Of the top sack leaders, only one dropped into coverage more than 5% of the time...and he dropped less than 6%...

I'm not picky. Don't really care who is getting the sacks but just that the defense gets them. PIT tied for most sacks this season. The CB blitz was a big part of that. This means that someone else on the Defense has to drop in short coverage. If it's a LB, so be it.

[Shoe]

I'm not picky. Don't really care who is getting the sacks but just that the defense gets them. PIT tied for most sacks this season. The CB blitz was a big part of that. This means that someone else on the Defense has to drop in short coverage. If it's a LB, so be it.

I'm not either I guess. But people want you to believe that our OLB drop more into coverage because they are good at it. But they are not Jaime Collins or Julian Peterson out there (Watt has that potential though). Dupree is a big, fast, stiff dummy. He's not along those same lines. They want you to think he is dropping because he's got coverage skills like the aforementioned. He's dropping because he sucks at his job. His saving grace is that he's fast and big.

[Captain Lemming]

I'm not picky. Don't really care who is getting the sacks but just that the defense gets them. PIT tied for most sacks this season. The CB blitz was a big part of that. This means that someone else on the Defense has to drop in short coverage. If it's a LB, so be it.

All else being equal......getting your sacks from the D-Line and edge rushers is preferable as it keeps your speedy secondary players in coverage. Also a team that doe not "need" to fool you to sack you is a team that "can" pressure when they expect a run.....say a play action pass. I do like that Cam was a beast as an interior rusher.

Blitzing is fine. Depending on a ton of corner blitzes for getting pressure......creates risks on the back end.

[SS Laser]

All else being equal......getting your sacks from the D-Line and edge rushers is preferable as it keeps your speedy secondary players in coverage. Also a team that doe not "need" to fool you to sack you is a team that "can" pressure when they expect a run.....say a play action pass. I do like that Cam was a beast as an interior rusher.

Blitzing is fine. Depending on a ton of corner blitzes for getting pressure......creates risks on the back end.

I want to say most of the CB blitz's come when scheme is say nickel so the " back end" risk is much lower then say base defense. That's why it was mostly Hilton on the blitz. And it looked like no WR lined on for him to cover most times. Now the couple from Burns I am not sure what the scheme was there.
I Think is was used to much.
I wonder how good Hilton is really without all his blitzing?
Will he be replaced by Sutton for better coverage?

[Slapstick]

I want to say most of the CB blitz's come when scheme is say nickel so the " back end" risk is much lower then say base defense. That's why it was mostly Hilton on the blitz. And it looked like no WR lined on for him to cover most times. Now the couple from Burns I am not sure what the scheme was there.
I Think is was used to much.
I wonder how good Hilton is really without all his blitzing?
Will he be replaced by Sutton for better coverage?

In coverage, QBs had only a 75.9 passer rating when targeting Hilton’s receiver...that’s pretty good.

In addition to his sacks, 12 of Hilton’s tackles were against the run game...also pretty good for a nickel CB.

[Oviedo]

According to Steel City Underground, Dupree dropped into coverage more than 16% of his snaps (minimum of 400 snaps) and that was 8th most of any edge defender...of the players who dropped into coverage as much or more than Dupree, only two had more sacks (Watt being one of them)...

Of the top sack leaders, only one dropped into coverage more than 5% of the time...and he dropped less than 6%...

Damn those facts