Never been more confident in this team.

[Oviedo]

Cowhers players? You wanna talk "Cowhers players? Rather than attack this ridiculous contention....lets ride with it.

Dude I am about to slay you so bad with your silly reasoning you best be ashamed to even TRY to defend your assertion. My advice friend....pretend you never saw this as I destroy your argument to such a degree you will have to go "Aints" on this board (gotta be old to know that reference). Lets start:

You wanna go with sayin it was Cowhers players? You want to go there? Let's do it bro.

FACT 1. "Cowhers players" inherited by Tomlin NEVER EVER had the number one pass defense under Cowher.
FACT 2.Tomlin inherited the TWENTIETH ranked pass defense from Cowher.
FACT 3. Even the year they won the SB Cowhers team was 16th in pass defense.
FACT 4. Cowhers pass defense was DIGRESSING for 3 straight seasons (4th, 16th, 20th) when Tomlin took over.
FACT 5. Cowher NEVER EVER had the leagues top pass defense during his entire career.....Even with the likes of HOF cornerback Rod Woodson and Carnell Lake.

Season number ONE with Tomlins led "Cowhers players" from 20th ranked pass defense under Cowher to number 3 (fewer pass yard than ANY Cowher team).......in ONE SEASON- That my friend is coaching
Season number TWO Tomlin takes Cowhers 20th ranked pass defense players to number 1 (Cowher has NEVER had a number 1 pass defense ever)
Tomlin had the number one pass defense two more times.....with Cowhers 20th ranked players.

A total of four times Tomlin took 20th ranked Cowher pass defense talent to levels of play that NO pass defense of Cowhers has ever reached.

AND he coached 2 number 1 pass defenses as DB coach for the bucs. Cowher has never been a part of a number 1 pass defense.

See what I just did?
Destroy you with YOUR OWN weak logic.

PLUEEESE call them Cowhers players. "Great coaching" took that secondary to heights it never saw under Cowher.

Facts are a bitch aren't they.

[Captain Lemming]

wow, i stand corrected. our pass defense yards allowed(not tds) was pretty good the first few years under tomlin.

Year one...sure, way less yards, still allowing touchdowns. One step at a time.

We allowed only 12 TD passes in year 2. TWELVE my friend.
Think about it Squid......year 2 as head coach and his pass defense was better than Cowhers EVER was INCLUDING touchdowns allowed.

i wonder why those numbers didnt stay that high after cowhers players left and tomlins drafts took over?

Dude I warned you . This thread was being ignored about to disappear. You just had to "wake it up" by responding. You are just embarressing yourself now. People are mocking your weak attempt at a comeback.

Lets go:

Well under Tomlin the Steelers drafted Keenan Lewis.....we had the number one pass defense in the league and he led the league in passes defended when he started. I'd say THAT's pretty good.

Sure when Lewis left and Ike got old we replaced them with backup level talent like Willie Gay, Brice McCain, and the oh so horrible Antwan Blake the defense tanked. You act like we "drafted" all kinds of elite talent he could not teach.

You think Cowher could "coach" them up when he was FAILING with a number 20 defense with Ike and Troy in their prime?

BTW, let me educate you son on the English language:
Definition "Coach" : One who instructs or trains; especially : one who instructs players in the fundamentals of a sport. ex a football coach.

Squid, by definition talent acquisition is NOT coaching. That is a shared role in which the "coach" has input, not the final call.

Your silly assertion is that these were "Cowhers" players only further illuminates how much better the "coaching" of pass defense is under Tomlin and you know it hater. Had we acquired the next Rod Woodson or Deon Sanders the comparison would be LESS not more valid.

Over his career Tomlin has coached more number one pass defenses than Noll AND Cowher combined.

Oh and before I conclude might I remind you to try opening your eyes and see whats in front of your face.

Having only now focused on actually acquiring REAL secondary talent:
AS WE SPEAK TOMLIN IS THE COACH OF THE NUMBER 5 PASS DEFENSE......again he inherited the 20th best pass defense from Cowher.

Oh yes, Tomlin is indeed a DB "guru" may friend.

[Captain Lemming]

Squid.....for your own sake.....just stay down....please dont try to get up, even I am starting to feel bad for you.

[Captain Lemming]

Nice try Captain, but you cannot reason with "kid". It should be very obvious why he opposes Tomlin and will never give him credit for being the excellent head coach that I think he has proven to be. Reasoning with "kid" is tantamount to attempting to reason with a wild-eyed individual in a lynch mob or someone participating in a race riot trying to prevent school desegregation.

Their emotions and biases rule their thinking, not rational thinking.

Dude "I" know this. He will never concede to the truth.
I am allowing his motives to be clearly exposed.

And it is just plain fun to run circles around his oh so feeble mind.

[bostonsteeler]

Cowhers players? You wanna talk "Cowhers players? Rather than attack this ridiculous contention....lets ride with it.

Dude I am about to slay you so bad with your silly reasoning you best be ashamed to even TRY to defend your assertion. My advice friend....pretend you never saw this as I destroy your argument to such a degree you will have to go "Aints" on this board (gotta be old to know that reference). Lets start:

You wanna go with sayin it was Cowhers players? You want to go there? Let's do it bro.

FACT 1. "Cowhers players" inherited by Tomlin NEVER EVER had the number one pass defense under Cowher.
FACT 2.Tomlin inherited the TWENTIETH ranked pass defense from Cowher.
FACT 3. Even the year they won the SB Cowhers team was 16th in pass defense.
FACT 4. Cowhers pass defense was DIGRESSING for 3 straight seasons (4th, 16th, 20th) when Tomlin took over.
FACT 5. Cowher NEVER EVER had the leagues top pass defense during his entire career.....Even with the likes of HOF cornerback Rod Woodson and Carnell Lake.

Season number ONE with Tomlins led "Cowhers players" from 20th ranked pass defense under Cowher to number 3 (fewer pass yard than ANY Cowher team).......in ONE SEASON- That my friend is coaching
Season number TWO Tomlin takes Cowhers 20th ranked pass defense players to number 1 (Cowher has NEVER had a number 1 pass defense ever)
Tomlin had the number one pass defense two more times.....with Cowhers 20th ranked players.

A total of four times Tomlin took 20th ranked Cowher pass defense talent to levels of play that NO pass defense of Cowhers has ever reached.

AND he coached 2 number 1 pass defenses as DB coach for the bucs. Cowher has never been a part of a number 1 pass defense.

See what I just did?
Destroy you with YOUR OWN weak logic.

PLUEEESE call them Cowhers players. "Great coaching" took that secondary to heights it never saw under Cowher.

Dude, that was worthy of Muhammed Ali. Start with a taunt and challenge, and then back it up with a KO!

[Docosc]

Damn, Captain, I will be very cautious in posting opinions here! That was a royal roasting!