Steelers' Tight Ends Appear To Be Stepping Up...

[feltdizz]

What an incredibly (and purposely) dishonest comment.

30 point average in last three games. Yeah, right. It's actually 2 games where the offense did well and you are using the great output against the Titans to drag a subpar 20 point outing against the terrible Colts up to respectable. If you have to lie or dishonestly use stats to make a point, the point is better off left unmade.

Here are some real stats. After the Colts game, Ben's seasons numbers were about equal to Jacoby Brissett's. The same Brissett who did not come to the Colts until the eve of the first game and did not start until week 3.

Even now, after two high scoring games, we have scored a total of 6, yes, 6 more points than the oft mocked train wreck of an offense of the Purple Browns.

New England, the team we need to beat to get over the hump, has scored about 75 more points than we have for the season (almost a touchdown per game).

So, feel free to wrongly believe that all we need to do is throw it to AB and Bell. You are free to make absurd statements in this country.

huh? the average is the average. it's not dishonest. It's simply math.

I guess you are one of those guys who want to get rid of the long runs to get a true sense of a running backs average ypc.

and who said all we need to do is throw to AB and Bell? Why do you keep making things up? It's more like "all we have to do is keep throwing to AB and Bell and then throw a few to JJ, MB and the TE's and keep scoring TD's instead of FG's"

and who cares if the Pats score 150 more so far this season. All that matters is what they score against us. Whether we win by 1 or 21 it's still a W.

[WB Tarleton]

Except perhaps someone who makes up their mind before actually seeing things...

I saw both plays. Both took zero ability. Did you see them?

James literally stood there, waited for the rush to go by, and then was all alone in the end zone for a pitch and catch the velocity of a badminton birdie.

At least Grimble had to run a little, but had a catch of two yards in the air. He did a great job of turning without tripping though.

Stepping up!

[feltdizz]

I saw both plays. Both took zero ability. Did you see them?

James literally stood there, waited for the rush to go by, and then was all alone in the end zone for a pitch and catch the velocity of a badminton birdie.

At least Grimble had to run a little, but had a catch of two yards in the air. He did a great job of turning without tripping though.

Stepping up!

you sound mad..

stepping up is making the catch and scoring the TD when called upon. I have seen a lot of football this weekend and watched a ton of TE's and WR's drop easy TD's.

Not sure why it upsets you.. oh wait, I know exactly why it upsets you. More TD's by the TE's means we won't go TE in the first round. Poor fans.. every year you cry for a TE and every year the FO shrugs.

It's not going to happen next year either.

[WB Tarleton]

huh? the average is the average. it's not dishonest. It's simply math.

I guess you are one of those guys who want to get rid of the long runs to get a true sense of a running backs average ypc.

and who said all we need to do is throw to AB and Bell? Why do you keep making things up? It's more like "all we have to do is keep throwing to AB and Bell and then throw a few to JJ, MB and the TE's and keep scoring TD's instead of FG's"

and who cares if the Pats score 150 more so far this season. All that matters is what they score against us. Whether we win by 1 or 21 it's still a W.

My heavens, you are a dolt.

You cherry picked what weeks to "count" in order to make it look like our offense has been playing well for three weeks instead of two.

You guys were saying that we were throwing to AB and Bell so much because they were the best in the game and that is why they get paid. So, yes, it implies that we want it that way and no other quality players are not necessary. You do not even understand the conclusions of your own "logic."

and who cares if the Pats score 150 more so far this season. All that matters is what they score against us. Whether we win by 1 or 21 it's still a W.

This may be an all time dumb statement. Here is a hint: Teams that score more are also more likely to score more against us. Is that a good or bad thing? Do you know?

Our goal is to beat them. One way to achieve it is to have a BETTER offense than them. At least as good. We don't. Again, what's better? Having a better offense or worse offense? Do you know?

You literally make stats obsolete. Nothing matters as long as we score more against them!

[WB Tarleton]

you sound mad..

stepping up is making the catch and scoring the TD when called upon. I have seen a lot of football this weekend and watched a ton of TE's and WR's drop easy TD's.

Not sure why it upsets you.. oh wait, I know exactly why it upsets you. More TD's by the TE's means we won't go TE in the first round. Poor fans.. every year you cry for a TE and every year the FO shrugs.

It's not going to happen next year either.

Nah, frustrated with idiocy and statistical dishonesty. Now, literal dishonesty.

Please show me where I advocated for a first round TE. Quote me. You won't. Because you made it up. You lied.

[feltdizz]

Where did I say that YOU said "deadly?" I said the concepts that they were "stepping up" and "deadly" is absurd. Whoever said it (you said, "stepping up").



Some more entirely dishonest and misleading stats. Don't equate scheme with talent. A tackle eligible getting a goal line TD pass is not "stepping up" as a receiver. The OC schemed for it. It has literally zero to do with his physical ability other than to be able to be ambulatory and hold on to a loaf of bread. The two TDs to James and Grimble were no different. In fact, it was their lack of being a threat that made the D not account for them in coverage.



"Stepping up" means doing something to make it happen, not being the recipient of a nice play that someone else designed.

It's like my assistant doing a report for me, handing it to me, and I walk it in to my boss and claim that I was "stepping up" because I didn't trip on the way in.

what???

you are doing way too much to discredit these players. They scored, we won.. deal with it.

[WB Tarleton]

stepping up is making the catch and scoring the TD when called upon. I have seen a lot of football this weekend and watched a ton of TE's and WR's drop easy TD's.

Great. Provide links to the highlights of the "ton" of easy TD drops, especially as easy as the ones by JJ and Grimble.

[WB Tarleton]

what???

you are doing way too much to discredit these players. They scored, we won.. deal with it.

1) Where did I say you said "deadly." I didn't.

2) There is nothing to discredit. Credit is earned. You do not earn credit by the OC tricking the defense. Neither was covered. The only talent needed was the ability to walk.

[feltdizz]

Nah, frustrated with idiocy and statistical dishonesty. Now, literal dishonesty.

Please show me where I advocated for a first round TE. Quote me. You won't. Because you made it up. You lied.

what is the average score the last 3 games? Is it 30.3 or not?

20 + 40 + 31 = 91.. divided by 3 that's 30.3. Yup. That's not dishonesty, that's the truth.

Did I lie or just joke you for being mad at the actual factuals?

[feltdizz]

1) Where did I say you said "deadly." I didn't.

2) There is nothing to discredit. Credit is earned. You do not earn credit by the OC tricking the defense. Neither was covered. The only talent needed was the ability to walk.

1) huh? I think you have me mixed up with Slapstick

2) So you only give credit when a player checks off certain boxes on a TD? okay...

you know those TD's still count on the scoreboard and in the stat books?

[RuthlessBurgher]

This has disintegrated into such a dumb thread.

A simple observation that TE's have scored TD's in 3 straight games after 2 months worth of no TE TD's following James' 2 TD's in the season opener.

Now it's an argument about who said "deadly" or whose math is correct.

[feltdizz]

This has disintegrated into such a dumb thread.

A simple observation that TE's have scored TD's in 3 straight games after 2 months worth of no TE TD's following James' 2 TD's in the season opener.

Now it's an argument about who said "deadly" or whose math is correct.

you are being deadly dishonest

the real issue is some folks don't like giving certain players credit.

[RuthlessBurgher]

you are being deadly dishonest

the real issue is some folks don't like giving certain players credit.

The only thing that I know for certain about our TE's is that they are the absolute best in the league at running down opposing players before they reach the goal line following blocked kicks.

[WB Tarleton]

what is the average score the last 3 games? Is it 30.3 or not?

20 + 40 + 31 = 91.. divided by 3 that's 30.3. Yup. That's not dishonesty, that's the truth.

Did I lie or just joke you for being mad at the actual factuals?

Yeah, score 0 in a game, then 60. Average is 30. Does it mean the offense played well the last two games?

You do realize that a statement can be technically true, yet still a lie and meant to mislead?

[WB Tarleton]

Where is the quote where I said I wanted a first round TE?

Where are the links to the highlights of the "tons of drops" by TE's and WR's in the end zone? I'll make it easy for you. Just the ones as easy as Grimble's or JJ's TDs. No need for the entire "ton."