Steelers' Tight Ends Appear To Be Stepping Up...

[feltdizz]

LOL Are you seriously contending that this team is happy with only two threats?

OK, so why is it so important for MB and JJSS to play well? Just "let the best RB and WR in the game be the best RB and WR in the game..." Right? Did you happen to see all of the double coverage on AB last night? Do you think some more single coverage would allow AB to be the "best WR in the game" even more?

Well, the same holds true with a seam and pole route threat. If you think we would not like to get more single coverage on AB, you are nuts. A TE does that, pulls the safety to the middle instead of the outside. When is the last time Jesse James even ran a pole/pole corner/seam/seam post route? I cannot remember either.

And Bell getting 12 catches is not optimal. Most were not designed to him. He was a check down. Perhaps a good TE in the middle would allow Ben not to check down so often. A TE getting 13 yards is much better than Bell getting 8 and saves tread on Bell.

Teams will always double AB. Ben is still going to throw it to him because he beats most double teams.

Killer B’s. They get paid a ton for a reason.

[pittpete]

Tarleton you won't win with these two.
You're not allowed to criticize, critique anyone or any position on this team.
Facts and stats backing up your position usually doesn't work either.

[Oviedo]

Perhaps. Or, perhaps, the Steelers are content to let the best RB and WR in the game be the best RB and WR in the game...

Crazy talk...who would do something like that? Clearly its not working

[Slapstick]

Tarleton you won't win with these two.
You're not allowed to criticize, critique anyone or any position on this team.
Facts and stats backing up your position usually doesn't work either.

Nor are you allowed to offer any kind of praise or anything constructive, by some people.

[feltdizz]

Crazy talk...who would do something like that? Clearly its not working

I know right? The 3 highest paid players on our team get the ball the most. It's crazy

[feltdizz]

Tarleton you won't win with these two.
You're not allowed to criticize, critique anyone or any position on this team.
Facts and stats backing up your position usually doesn't work either.

not when the team is 9-2 and averaging 30 points the last 3 games.

[WB Tarleton]

lol What a joke.

Our offense has two good games and suddenly it's "Let AB and Bell be AB and Bell!"

What about the first 9? Oh, yeah, all Haley's fault. It had nothing to do with more weapons being needed.

Someone should note who is in the "All we need is AB and Bell" camp and not let them get away with ever wanting JJSS, MB, or any other offensive weapon to play well. Just give it to Bell and AB right?

[Slapstick]

lol What a joke.

Our offense has two good games and suddenly it's "Let AB and Bell be AB and Bell!"

What about the first 9? Oh, yeah, all Haley's fault. It had nothing to do with more weapons being needed.

Someone should note who is in the "All we need is AB and Bell" camp and not let them get away with ever wanting JJSS, MB, or any other offensive weapon to play well. Just give it to Bell and AB right?

Well, sure...if you are just going to create a straw man and take what was said totally out of it’s context...

[WB Tarleton]

not when the team is 9-2 and averaging 30 points the last 3 games.

What an incredibly (and purposely) dishonest comment.

30 point average in last three games. Yeah, right. It's actually 2 games where the offense did well and you are using the great output against the Titans to drag a subpar 20 point outing against the terrible Colts up to respectable. If you have to lie or dishonestly use stats to make a point, the point is better off left unmade.

Here are some real stats. After the Colts game, Ben's seasons numbers were about equal to Jacoby Brissett's. The same Brissett who did not come to the Colts until the eve of the first game and did not start until week 3.

Even now, after two high scoring games, we have scored a total of 6, yes, 6 more points than the oft mocked train wreck of an offense of the Purple Browns.

New England, the team we need to beat to get over the hump, has scored about 75 more points than we have for the season (almost a touchdown per game).

So, feel free to wrongly believe that all we need to do is throw it to AB and Bell. You are free to make absurd statements in this country.

[WB Tarleton]

Well, sure...if you are just going to create a straw man and take what was said totally out of it’s context...

Actually, it was the truth and in context.

That is what s being said here. AB and Bell are getting the ball so much because they are the best in the game and that is how it should be.

Here is another stat. When was Martavis's best year? 2015. What was AB's best year? 2015. Do you think it is a coincidence or, as any knowledgeable football fan could see, they are connected?

Other good football players draw coverage from other good football players. You cannot double everyone.

James and Grimble do NOTHING to contribute to this. They can't run pole routes. They can't run seam routes. Safeties do not account for them and sit right on AB. The "3 TDs" in the last three games were scheme related (at least 2, I do not remember the third). To get back to the topic of the post, saying they are "stepping up" and "deadly" is absurd.

[WB Tarleton]

Tarleton you won't win with these two.
You're not allowed to criticize, critique anyone or any position on this team.
Facts and stats backing up your position usually doesn't work either.

I am beginning to see that. No one is blinder than one who refuses to see.

[Slapstick]

Actually, it was the truth and in context.

That is what s being said here. AB and Bell are getting the ball so much because they are the best in the game and that is how it should be.

Here is another stat. When was Martavis's best year? 2015. What was AB's best year? 2015. Do you think it is a coincidence or, as any knowledgeable football fan could see, they are connected?

Other good football players draw coverage from other good football players. You cannot double everyone.

James and Grimble do NOTHING to contribute to this. They can't run pole routes. They can't run seam routes. Safeties do not account for them and sit right on AB. The "3 TDs" in the last three games were scheme related (at least 2, I do not remember the third). To get back to the topic of the post, saying they are "stepping up" and "deadly" is absurd.

Nope. Ben has thrown 10 TDs in the last three weeks. 30 percent of those have gone to the TEs. That means that the TEs are starting to take advantage of the few opportunities given to them, specifically in the past three weeks when compared to the first 8 games. Whether or not it was Haley’s play design or not, they scored.

If you go back and actually read what I posted, you will see that I never referred to our TEs as “deadly”. That was feltdizz, but you are attributing it to me.

At any rate, you can feel free to disagree. You can even question me. No biggie. But, at least try to understand the point first.

[Slapstick]

I am beginning to see that. No one is blinder than one who refuses to see.

Except perhaps someone who makes up their mind before actually seeing things...

[feltdizz]

lol What a joke.

Our offense has two good games and suddenly it's "Let AB and Bell be AB and Bell!"

What about the first 9? Oh, yeah, all Haley's fault. It had nothing to do with more weapons being needed.

Someone should note who is in the "All we need is AB and Bell" camp and not let them get away with ever wanting JJSS, MB, or any other offensive weapon to play well. Just give it to Bell and AB right?

this has to be the dumbest leap in the history of the boards.

so now we can't want any other player to do well because we accept that AB and Bell are 60% of our offense?

the point is since they are 60% of our offense the other 40% is going to go to JJJS, MB and the TE's aren't going to get much in terms of yards or touches for obvious reasons. Our TE's getting 11 grabs and 3 TD's in the last 3 games is great production in our offense given how the ball is distributed.

[WB Tarleton]

Nope. Ben has thrown 10 TDs in the last three weeks. 30 percent of those have gone to the TEs. That means that the TEs are starting to take advantage of the few opportunities given to them, specifically in the past three weeks when compared to the first 8 games. Whether or not it was Haley’s play design or not, they scored.

If you go back and actually read what I posted, you will see that I never referred to our TEs as “deadly”. That was feltdizz, but you are attributing it to me.

At any rate, you can feel free to disagree. You can even question me. No biggie. But, at least try to understand the point first.

Where did I say that YOU said "deadly?" I said the concepts that they were "stepping up" and "deadly" is absurd. Whoever said it (you said, "stepping up").

Nope. Ben has thrown 10 TDs in the last three weeks. 30 percent of those have gone to the TEs. That means that the TEs are starting to take advantage of the few opportunities given to them, specifically in the past three weeks when compared to the first 8 games.

Some more entirely dishonest and misleading stats. Don't equate scheme with talent. A tackle eligible getting a goal line TD pass is not "stepping up" as a receiver. The OC schemed for it. It has literally zero to do with his physical ability other than to be able to be ambulatory and hold on to a loaf of bread. The two TDs to James and Grimble were no different. In fact, it was their lack of being a threat that made the D not account for them in coverage.

Whether or not it was Haley’s play design or not, they scored.

"Stepping up" means doing something to make it happen, not being the recipient of a nice play that someone else designed.

It's like my assistant doing a report for me, handing it to me, and I walk it in to my boss and claim that I was "stepping up" because I didn't trip on the way in.