Rookie of the Year so far?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #16
    T.J. Watt, JuJu Smith-Schuster add splash to Steelers rookie class

    10:00 AM ET

    Jeremy Fowler
    ESPN Staff Writer

    Here's a look at the first-half impact of the Pittsburgh Steelers' draft class:


    T.J. Watt, OLB, first round: Watt has proved versatile in his first seven NFL games, ranking second on the team in sacks (4.0) along with 28 tackles, an interception and four passes defended. He can deftly drop back into coverage or rush the passer. The next step is a more consistent pass-rush.

    Grade: Above average


    JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, second round: Smith-Schuster's 424 receiving yards are 167 more than the five receivers drafted ahead of him -- combined. Smith-Schuster impressed coaches with his blocking/physicality, then used his enhanced role as a springboard for big catches (four touchdowns). He earned a starting job on a talented offense in less than half a season.

    Grade: Near perfection


    Cam Sutton, CB, third round: Sutton has spent the season on injured reserve because of a hamstring issue but returned to practice Tuesday, enacting a 21-day window for reactivation. Sutton showed his coverage instincts in limited preseason work, and the Steelers like his future, but his impact on 2017 might be minimal.

    Grade: Incomplete


    James Conner, RB, third round: Conner has proved a solid rusher in limited second-string work, rushing for 89 yards on 18 carries. But offensive coordinator Todd Haley said a few missed blocking assignments held him back a bit. Conner said he's improving in those areas, though.

    Grade: Somewhere between average and above average


    Joshua Dobbs, QB, fourth round: Dobbs is working in the shadows, which is exactly what the Steelers want. He's the third-string quarterback and probably won't be on the field in 2017. Dobbs has made mistakes, but the Steelers like how he learns from them. Dobbs completed 38-of-64 passes for 406 yards, two touchdowns and three interceptions in the preseason.

    Grade: Bring on 2018


    Brian Allen, CB, fifth round: The Steelers kept Allen on the 53-man roster because of his intriguing skill set as a 6-foot-3 corner with adequate speed and pass-catching ability as a former receiver at Utah. He has had bright spots in practice, including an interception of Ben Roethlisberger, but he's not in the fold this season.

    Grade: Incomplete


    Colin Holba, LS, sixth round: Holba was drafted to replace Greg Warren but was outplayed by Kameron Canaday and is now out of the league.

    Grade: Incomplete


    Keion Adams, OLB, seventh round: The pass-rusher showed some natural quickness in offseason workouts but is missing the entire 2017 season because of a torn labrum. The Steelers will give him a chance to crack the rotation next season.

    Grade: Bring on 2018


    http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/25852/t-j-watt-juju-smith-schuster-add-splash-to-steelers-rookie-class
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

    Comment

    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 3937

      #17
      For the Steelers..I'm most impressed with what TJ has done on this defense. Not taking anything away from what JuJu has done. Saying that..TJ would need to hit 10+ sacks to be recognized on theLeague level IMO.

      Comment

      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10281

        #18
        James Conner, RB, third round: Conner has proved a solid rusher in limited second-string work, rushing for 89 yards on 18 carries. But offensive coordinator Todd Haley said a few missed blocking assignments held him back a bit. Conner said he's improving in those areas, though.

        Grade: Somewhere between average and above average
        How has Conner been between average and above average? He barely sees the field and because of the Bell sees the ball 35 times. If they think he improves then you can give him an incomplete, but more likely a below average for now.

        Colin Holba, LS, sixth round: Holba was drafted to replace Greg Warren but was outplayed by Kameron Canaday and is now out of the league.

        Grade: Incomplete
        Incomplete? The guy is now out of football. What could be more complete than that? Grade: F for Fail
        http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

        Comment

        • squidkid
          Legend
          • Feb 2012
          • 5847

          #19
          lol................sounds like one of our 'fans' grading this
          first 2 rounds good.
          last 5, non factors/bust at best
          steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

          Comment

          • Captain Lemming
            Legend
            • Jun 2008
            • 16041

            #20
            Originally posted by squidkid
            lol................sounds like one of our 'fans' grading this
            first 2 rounds good.
            last 5, non factors/bust at best
            Hey Squid. Why you gotta hate for no good reason?
            You do know that MOST players picked after the first two rounds are non-contributers after 8 games right?

            Rookie 3rd round pick Hines Ward had 16 catches. He ened up breaking Steeler records, and is in consideration for the HOF.
            Rookie 1st round pick Troy Edwards had 61 catches the very next season (heck Antonio Brown had only 15 as a rookie)
            Despite the 61 catches as a rookie, Edwards wound up the bust.

            How bout this.
            After 8 games as late round rookies, Josh Hobbs and Tom Brady had the EXACT SAME STAT LINE. ZERO across the board.
            Did that lack of contribution by rookie Brady have any bearing on his career? Of course not!

            Dude you are just ridiculous man.
            Last edited by Captain Lemming; 11-09-2017, 05:27 PM.
            sigpic



            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

            TCFCLTC-
            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

            Comment

            • squidkid
              Legend
              • Feb 2012
              • 5847

              #21
              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
              Hey Squid. Why you gotta hate for no good reason?
              You do know that MOST players picked after the first two rounds are non-contributers after 8 games right?

              Rookie 3rd round pick Hines Ward had 16 catches. He ened up breaking Steeler records, and is in consideration for the HOF.
              Rookie 1st round pick Troy Edwards had 61 catches the very next season (heck Antonio Brown had only 15 as a rookie)
              Despite the 61 catches as a rookie, Edwards wound up the bust.

              How bout this.
              After 8 games as late round rookies, Josh Hobbs and Tom Brady had the EXACT SAME STAT LINE. ZERO across the board.
              Did that lack of contribution by rookie Brady have any bearing on his career? Of course not!

              Dude you are just ridiculous man.
              what part of 'first half impact' do you not understand?
              okay, maybe i am wrong here.
              please tell me how picks 2 thru 7 have positively impacted the team so far this season.
              THEN please tell me how me stating that picks 2 thru 7 have not done sh!t so far, means that i said they will never do anything the rest of their carreer.
              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

              Comment

              • RuthlessBurgher
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #22
                Originally posted by squidkid
                what part of 'first half impact' do you not understand?
                okay, maybe i am wrong here.
                please tell me how picks 2 thru 7 have positively impacted the team so far this season.
                THEN please tell me how me stating that picks 2 thru 7 have not done sh!t so far, means that i said they will never do anything the rest of their carreer.
                You said non factor and bust at best. That sounds to me like you are saying that they have been non factors so far and the best case scenario for those guys in the future is being a bust. How else are you supposed to interpret "bust at best"?
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

                Comment

                • Slapstick
                  Rookie
                  • May 2008
                  • 0

                  #23
                  Pick #2 was JuJu Smith-Schuster...

                  That should just end it...
                  Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

                  Comment

                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16041

                    #24
                    what part of 'first half impact' do you not understand?
                    Oh, I understand the expression my friend.
                    Try actually saying that rather than “bust” if that is what you intend to communicate.

                    okay, maybe i am wrong here.
                    Finally you are speaking truth........just dump the “maybe”.

                    please tell me how picks 2 thru 7 have positively impacted the team so far this season.
                    THEN please tell me how me stating that picks 2 thru 7 have not done sh!t so far, means that i said they will never do anything the rest of their carreer.
                    Oh man. I must have missed the part where you said that Squid.
                    “So far”? You said that?
                    Let me check again.....nope not there.

                    Hmmm, how did I come to that wrong conclusion?

                    Originally posted by Squid
                    last 5, non factors/bust at best
                    Is English a second language for you?

                    Because if you REALLY meant to say what you are saying now, there are classes for that.

                    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 11-11-2017, 01:00 PM.
                    sigpic



                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

                    Comment

                    • Captain Lemming
                      Legend
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 16041

                      #25
                      Originally posted by squidkid
                      what part of 'first half impact' do you not understand?
                      okay, maybe i am wrong here.
                      please tell me how picks 2 thru 7 have positively impacted the team so far this season.
                      THEN please tell me how me stating that picks 2 thru 7 have not done sh!t so far, means that i said they will never do anything the rest of their carreer.
                      To which Ruthless replied:

                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      You said non factor and bust at best. That sounds to me like you are saying that they have been non factors so far and the best case scenario for those guys in the future is being a bust. How else are you supposed to interpret "bust at best"?
                      Ruthless, I've pondered this and I think there is an explanation to what on the surface appears to be nonsense.

                      I think he used the black font in portions of his post.
                      THAT would explain why we missed all those “qualifiers” he now attributes to his original statement.

                      Squid, please, just stick to the default font because the black font doesn’t show on the black background.
                      Last edited by Captain Lemming; 11-11-2017, 01:07 PM.
                      sigpic



                      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                      TCFCLTC-
                      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

                      Comment

                      Working...