no talk about tomlin's moronic FG move?

[squidkid]

its amazing how stupid you guys are. you have no independent thought.
if pinning your opponent is the right call, then why didnt he punt from the beginning instead of line up for the FG?

[Mr.wizard]

its amazing how stupid you guys are. you have no independent thought.
if pinning your opponent is the right call, then why didnt he punt from the beginning instead of line up for the FG?

Because he didn't have the option of choosing between them pinned on the 1 yard line or field goal at first. If the punt had gone into the endzone for a touchback then he accepts the penalty and kicks the field goal because the difference in yardage would be worth the risk. Since the ball was downed on the 1 yard line Tomlin had the option of choosing to pin the Vikings there or attempt a long field goal, which he made the right choice to put their struggling offense on the 1 yard line instead of risking changing the whole momentum of the game.

[Slapstick]

Because there is a difference between punting on one side of the fifty versus the other?

[Steelhere10]

lol............you guys will defend him no matter what

And you will criticized no matter what. Dumb thread from an idiot like always. ... lol

[RuthlessBurgher]

its amazing how stupid you guys are. you have no independent thought.
if pinning your opponent is the right call, then why didnt he punt from the beginning instead of line up for the FG?

Dude, there is literally no one here supporting your side right now. Think it through...

The first time he was choosing whether to attempt the 47 yard FG or punt, there are several possible outcomes.

If he opts to attempt the FG, something good could happen (FG good...now we are up by 14), something bad could happen (FG miss...they get the ball where the holder spotted the ball at the 37 yard line), or something disastrous could happen (FG block and returned for a TD).

If he opts to punt, something good could happen (down the punt inside the 5 yard line), something bad could happen (punter shanks the ball off the side of his foot or it rolls into the end zone for a touchback...barely impacting field position), or something disastrous could happen (punt block and returned for a TD or even a punt return for a TD).

The second time he was choosing after the penalty, the same exact three possible outcomes were still there if we attempted the FG (the good, the bad, and the ugly), but with the punt option, we are now GUARANTEED to get the best possible outcome of a punt (other than a returner muffing it and we recover the punt). Downing a punt at your opponent's 1 yard line is an awesome thing.

It frankly boggles the mind that you would consider a long FG attempt to be a smarter idea, and a guaranteed pinning of your opponent at their own 1 yard line to be moronic (especially in the 4th quarter of a game with 10 minutes to go up 11 points).

You claim we have no independent thought and are amazing stupid for agreeing with this decision. The only rational explanation is that you are the one with no independent thought, opting instead to automatically oppose any decision Tomlin makes, even if that decision makes perfect sense to everyone else. Explain to me precisely your rational explanation for why the 47 yard FG attempt is smarter than the "moronic" decision to guarantee that your opponent is pinned back at their own 1 yard line with 10 minutes to go in the game up by 11. I can't wait to hear it. Seriously.

[Mr.wizard]

If Tomlin would have choose to kick the field goal and missed he would be telling us idiotic Tomlin is for not pinning the vikings on the one.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

If Tomlin would have choose to kick the field goal and missed he would be telling us idiotic Tomlin is for not pinning the vikings on the one.

So would I. So would everyone.

[squidkid]

lol.............if tomlin would have opted to attempt the FG to go up by 14 instead of take the punt location, you guys would be praising that decision.....guaranteed!

[skyhawk]

How is pinning them at the 1 on a punt guaranteed?

[Mr.wizard]

How is pinning them at the 1 on a punt guaranteed?

What do you mean?

[skyhawk]

What do you mean?

Downing the ball at the 1 is never guaranteed on a punt. Right?

[skyhawk]

What do you mean?

Nevermind. I went back and reread your post. I forgot the exact scenario where the ball had already been punted and downed.

[Starlifter]

Tomlins decision + we win the game = he made the right call.

but while we're all on here to second guess, I'm mystified why anyone would want to trade 1st and 10 with 99 yards to go near the end of the game for an iffy 47 yard FG which if memory serves was after Boswell had already missed the uprights once earlier at 46 yards (although a penalty gave him a mulligan).

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

Tomlins decision + we win the game = he made the right call.

That's like saying, "See, I'm still alive after driving home drunk, so it was the right call", IMO.

... but while we're all on here to second guess, I'm mystified why anyone would want to trade 1st and 10 with 99 yards to go near the end of the game for an iffy 47 yard FG which if memory serves was after Boswell had already missed the uprights once earlier at 46 yards (although a penalty gave him a mulligan).

I wish I remembered the play better, but is the question why Tomlin thought the FG was ok before the penalties, but not after, even though the down and distance were the same?

[bostonsteeler]

That's like saying, "See, I'm still alive after driving home drunk, so it was the right call", IMO.




I wish I remembered the play better, but is the question why Tomlin thought the FG was ok before the penalties, but not after, even though the down and distance were the same?

No. Before the penalties we were in a situation where there was no guarantee that a punt would give us a good position. In that situation it made more sense to kick. The odds of getting an outcome favorable to us were better with a kick.

After the Pit penalty and punt, we already had them at the 1. Now it was a case of *reversing* a terrific position in order to accept a potentially iffy kick for a Minn penalty.

We were already at the 1. No point giving that position up. That only made sense if the probability of nailing a kick was 1.0.

I could write the math out for you if you like