juju voodoo

[Captain Lemming]

I know. He was only able to score 25 TDs in three seasons at USC...

Dwayne Jarret- 41 TDs in three season at USC
Robert Woods- 32 TDs in three seasons at USC
Mike Williams- 30 TDs in ONLY TWO seasons at USC

That is a murderer row of receivers who exceeded their expectations as pros.

"Only" able to catch 25.....I know you were being sarcastic but if you're gonna make a point by the number of TDs he put up as a recent USC receiver........not the stongest case my friend.

[Slapstick]

Dwayne Jarret- 41 TDs in three season at USC
Robert Woods- 32 TDs in three seasons at USC
Mike Williams- 30 TDs in ONLY TWO seasons at USC

That is a murderer row of receivers who exceeded their expectations as pros.

"Only" able to catch 25.....I know you were being sarcastic but if you're gonna make a point by the number of TDs he put up as a recent USC receiver........not the stongest case my friend.

Recent? Both Mike Williams and Dwayne Jarret were drafted 10 years ago or more...

Robert Woods signed a 5 year deal for $34 million in the offseason...if Juju can be worth a contract like that in a few seasons, I'll be happy...

[RuthlessBurgher]

wrong answer. he was a stud, super duper, steal draft pick when he participated(according to you). the next day he was on the sideline. so i was waiting for you to tell me what he was now. still super duper or not?

I never said he was a super duper stud or a steal. I simply argued that the pick was justified when others here would have only been happy if our draft was defense, defense, defense, defense, and defense.

[Captain Lemming]

I never said he was a super duper stud or a steal. I simply argued that the pick was justified when others here would have only been happy if our draft was defense, defense, defense, defense, and defense.

I would be happy with "defense" "defense" myself.

Nearly half the league (15) drafted a corner before us.
Twenty five secondary players picked before us. I don't know.....the league considered our guy the 26th best secondary player drafted.
Seems like pretty long odds that he is the answer.

We needed to make sure we have the potential to be THE LEAGUES DEEPEST RECEIVER unit before we addressed the secondary.

[Slapstick]

Well, considering that two of the guys we're counting on are unable to practice, it was a very good idea in retrospect...

[Oviedo]

I would be happy with "defense" "defense" myself.

Nearly half the league (15) drafted a corner before us.
Twenty five secondary players picked before us. I don't know.....the league considered our guy the 26th best secondary player drafted.
Seems like pretty long odds that he is the answer.

We needed to make sure we have the potential to be THE LEAGUES DEEPEST RECEIVER unit before we addressed the secondary.

We also drafted two CBs in this draft and signed another as a free agent. What is there to complain about

[Slapstick]

We also drafted two CBs in this draft and signed another as a free agent. What is there to complain about

...after we went CB 1st round and S 2nd in the last draft...

[Captain Lemming]

We also drafted two CBs in this draft and signed another as a free agent. What is there to complain about

If the fifteen corners picked before him are better, there is plenty to complain about.
Put it this way. Would you take a 3rd and 5th over Artie Burns a year ago?

[Captain Lemming]

...after we went CB 1st round and S 2nd in the last draft...

And that was awesome. Doesn't make it complete.

Only need one hole to make a ship sink.

[Slapstick]

And that was awesome. Doesn't make it complete.

Only need one hole to make a ship sink.

True. But the Steelers had two holes that sank them against the Patriots: an underperforming secondary and underperforming WRs not named Antonio Brown...

[Slapstick]

If the fifteen corners picked before him are better, there is plenty to complain about.
Put it this way. Would you take a 3rd and 5th over Artie Burns a year ago?

Maybe not, but I probably would take a 3rd and a 5th over a 2nd rounder...

[Captain Lemming]

Maybe not, but I probably would take a 3rd and a 5th over a 2nd rounder...

In an unusually deep DB class there was first round talent well into the second.....up until Awuzie, who we could have easily gotten moving couple of spots. Then the drop off was steep.

[Captain Lemming]

True. But the Steelers had two holes that sank them against the Patriots: an underperforming secondary and underperforming WRs not named Antonio Brown...

Well underperforming receivers "included" the now highly compensated Brown. He gets paid like TWO Patriot receivers but it the dude below with the stick ran wild while Brown looked like a number 2 receiver.
That is what can happen when you invest in the secondary my friend.

Yes, I know we MUST BE PREPARED in case:
1. Bryant smokes weed again
2. Coates hands get re-injured
3. Eli digresses.
4. Brown gets hurt
5. DHB has nagging injuries again

Yet, nobody considers.....not just that secondary is a weakness relative to the talent everywhere else, what happens if EVERYTHING is not perfect on THAT side?

[Slapstick]

You are still a prisoner of the moment...and that moment was over in January...

The secondary had a bad game against the Pats* in the AFCC...it sucked and was unfortunate, but that is all it was...another first or second round CB wouldn't make a difference if the secondary played that badly again against the Pats*...

Draft players, not positions...if need and value match up as they did this past draft, so much the better...

At any rate, I agree that investing in the secondary is important...which is why the fact that the Steelers have spent 4 draft picks in the past two drafts for secondary players, 3 of them day one or day two picks, and sought more via free agency (both restricted and unrestricted) is promising...

[Steelerphile]

If the fifteen corners picked before him are better, there is plenty to complain about.
Put it this way. Would you take a 3rd and 5th over Artie Burns a year ago?

It is somewhat unbelievable that you continue to lament the Steelers not drafting Awuzie? There is no redo button and the Steelers cannot now go back
and draft this guy. Why don't you give it some time and see how the players they have turn out. Just because fifteen corners were picked before
Sutton does not mean Sutton isn't good and just because you have a man-crush on Awuzie doesn't mean he is that great. Predraft evaluations often turn
out to not be great predictors of NFL production.

I believe the Steeler secondary will be improved and will be the best secondary group of the Tomlin era. With the development of Burns and Davis,
the addition of Sensabaugh and Sutton. I think even Ross Cockrell will be better, as he is still young. If the Steelers had drafted Awuzie, there is no
way he would have started in place of Cockrell for various reasons. So I think it is doubtful he would have made much of an impact on the Steelers. He
is better on the Cowboys that really had a need of a starting corner or safety. It is not clear what his position is. As I look at his college production, he
was noted as a tackler and line of scrimmage DB, not so much for passes defensed or INTS, since he had 3 career college INTS.

Sutton may actually serve the Steelers purposes better since he has more demonstrated ball skills but not the tackling prowess of Awuzie in college.