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  • Captain Lemming
    Legend
    • Jun 2008
    • 16063

    Originally posted by Slapstick
    I know. He was only able to score 25 TDs in three seasons at USC...
    Dwayne Jarret- 41 TDs in three season at USC
    Robert Woods- 32 TDs in three seasons at USC
    Mike Williams- 30 TDs in ONLY TWO seasons at USC

    That is a murderer row of receivers who exceeded their expectations as pros.

    "Only" able to catch 25.....I know you were being sarcastic but if you're gonna make a point by the number of TDs he put up as a recent USC receiver........not the stongest case my friend.
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    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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    • Slapstick
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 0

      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
      Dwayne Jarret- 41 TDs in three season at USC
      Robert Woods- 32 TDs in three seasons at USC
      Mike Williams- 30 TDs in ONLY TWO seasons at USC

      That is a murderer row of receivers who exceeded their expectations as pros.

      "Only" able to catch 25.....I know you were being sarcastic but if you're gonna make a point by the number of TDs he put up as a recent USC receiver........not the stongest case my friend.
      Recent? Both Mike Williams and Dwayne Jarret were drafted 10 years ago or more...

      Robert Woods signed a 5 year deal for $34 million in the offseason...if Juju can be worth a contract like that in a few seasons, I'll be happy...
      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        Originally posted by squidkid
        wrong answer. he was a stud, super duper, steal draft pick when he participated(according to you). the next day he was on the sideline. so i was waiting for you to tell me what he was now. still super duper or not?
        I never said he was a super duper stud or a steal. I simply argued that the pick was justified when others here would have only been happy if our draft was defense, defense, defense, defense, and defense.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • Captain Lemming
          Legend
          • Jun 2008
          • 16063

          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          I never said he was a super duper stud or a steal. I simply argued that the pick was justified when others here would have only been happy if our draft was defense, defense, defense, defense, and defense.
          I would be happy with "defense" "defense" myself.

          Nearly half the league (15) drafted a corner before us.
          Twenty five secondary players picked before us. I don't know.....the league considered our guy the 26th best secondary player drafted.
          Seems like pretty long odds that he is the answer.

          We needed to make sure we have the potential to be THE LEAGUES DEEPEST RECEIVER unit before we addressed the secondary.
          Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-05-2017, 10:16 AM.
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          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

          TCFCLTC-
          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            Well, considering that two of the guys we're counting on are unable to practice, it was a very good idea in retrospect...
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23824

              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
              I would be happy with "defense" "defense" myself.

              Nearly half the league (15) drafted a corner before us.
              Twenty five secondary players picked before us. I don't know.....the league considered our guy the 26th best secondary player drafted.
              Seems like pretty long odds that he is the answer.

              We needed to make sure we have the potential to be THE LEAGUES DEEPEST RECEIVER unit before we addressed the secondary.
              We also drafted two CBs in this draft and signed another as a free agent. What is there to complain about
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                Originally posted by Oviedo
                We also drafted two CBs in this draft and signed another as a free agent. What is there to complain about
                ...after we went CB 1st round and S 2nd in the last draft...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16063

                  Originally posted by Oviedo
                  We also drafted two CBs in this draft and signed another as a free agent. What is there to complain about
                  If the fifteen corners picked before him are better, there is plenty to complain about.
                  Put it this way. Would you take a 3rd and 5th over Artie Burns a year ago?
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Captain Lemming
                    Legend
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 16063

                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    ...after we went CB 1st round and S 2nd in the last draft...
                    And that was awesome. Doesn't make it complete.

                    Only need one hole to make a ship sink.
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                    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                    TCFCLTC-
                    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      And that was awesome. Doesn't make it complete.

                      Only need one hole to make a ship sink.
                      True. But the Steelers had two holes that sank them against the Patriots: an underperforming secondary and underperforming WRs not named Antonio Brown...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Slapstick
                        Rookie
                        • May 2008
                        • 0

                        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                        If the fifteen corners picked before him are better, there is plenty to complain about.
                        Put it this way. Would you take a 3rd and 5th over Artie Burns a year ago?
                        Maybe not, but I probably would take a 3rd and a 5th over a 2nd rounder...
                        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16063

                          Originally posted by Slapstick
                          Maybe not, but I probably would take a 3rd and a 5th over a 2nd rounder...
                          In an unusually deep DB class there was first round talent well into the second.....up until Awuzie, who we could have easily gotten moving couple of spots. Then the drop off was steep.
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                          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                          TCFCLTC-
                          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 16063

                            Originally posted by Slapstick
                            True. But the Steelers had two holes that sank them against the Patriots: an underperforming secondary and underperforming WRs not named Antonio Brown...
                            Well underperforming receivers "included" the now highly compensated Brown. He gets paid like TWO Patriot receivers but it the dude below with the stick ran wild while Brown looked like a number 2 receiver.
                            That is what can happen when you invest in the secondary my friend.

                            Yes, I know we MUST BE PREPARED in case:
                            1. Bryant smokes weed again
                            2. Coates hands get re-injured
                            3. Eli digresses.
                            4. Brown gets hurt
                            5. DHB has nagging injuries again

                            Yet, nobody considers.....not just that secondary is a weakness relative to the talent everywhere else, what happens if EVERYTHING is not perfect on THAT side?

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                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
                            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              You are still a prisoner of the moment...and that moment was over in January...

                              The secondary had a bad game against the Pats* in the AFCC...it sucked and was unfortunate, but that is all it was...another first or second round CB wouldn't make a difference if the secondary played that badly again against the Pats*...

                              Draft players, not positions...if need and value match up as they did this past draft, so much the better...

                              At any rate, I agree that investing in the secondary is important...which is why the fact that the Steelers have spent 4 draft picks in the past two drafts for secondary players, 3 of them day one or day two picks, and sought more via free agency (both restricted and unrestricted) is promising...
                              Last edited by Slapstick; 08-06-2017, 12:47 AM.
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • Steelerphile
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 1198

                                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                                If the fifteen corners picked before him are better, there is plenty to complain about.
                                Put it this way. Would you take a 3rd and 5th over Artie Burns a year ago?
                                It is somewhat unbelievable that you continue to lament the Steelers not drafting Awuzie? There is no redo button and the Steelers cannot now go back
                                and draft this guy. Why don't you give it some time and see how the players they have turn out. Just because fifteen corners were picked before
                                Sutton does not mean Sutton isn't good and just because you have a man-crush on Awuzie doesn't mean he is that great. Predraft evaluations often turn
                                out to not be great predictors of NFL production.

                                I believe the Steeler secondary will be improved and will be the best secondary group of the Tomlin era. With the development of Burns and Davis,
                                the addition of Sensabaugh and Sutton. I think even Ross Cockrell will be better, as he is still young. If the Steelers had drafted Awuzie, there is no
                                way he would have started in place of Cockrell for various reasons. So I think it is doubtful he would have made much of an impact on the Steelers. He
                                is better on the Cowboys that really had a need of a starting corner or safety. It is not clear what his position is. As I look at his college production, he
                                was noted as a tackler and line of scrimmage DB, not so much for passes defensed or INTS, since he had 3 career college INTS.

                                Sutton may actually serve the Steelers purposes better since he has more demonstrated ball skills but not the tackling prowess of Awuzie in college.

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