The Steelers should still be building their team around Ben Roethlisberger

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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
    • 27531

    #61
    Originally posted by squidkid
    bortles also........he threw 35 2 seasons ago
    hold on now.. lol
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    • Ernie
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      • Aug 2013
      • 8470

      #62
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      LT was our general but he was too expensive given his age. LT is like Farrior. You hate to see those guys leave but you have to let them get that last big check on someone else's dime.
      If you are building "Long term"... I agree with what you are saying. However.. considering the context of the thread (building the team around Ben)...letting Timmons go doesn't make sense. The difference with Farrior is...we let him go at a time when our Franchise QB was on the front end of his career. I'm looking at Ben's window when I'm saying letting Timmons go was a mistake.

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      • squidkid
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        • Feb 2012
        • 5847

        #63
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        hold on now.. lol
        well, maybe
        im not doing jumping jacks, but 69 tds in his first 3 years with a bad team isnt too shabby. his ints are too high but he should be coming into his prime in a year or two and with an improving supporting cast.
        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27531

          #64
          Originally posted by squidkid
          well, maybe
          im not doing jumping jacks, but 69 tds in his first 3 years with a bad team isnt too shabby. his ints are too high but he should be coming into his prime in a year or two and with an improving supporting cast.

          Given who who he is playing for you may be right. It's hard to evaluate QBs on bad teams and I haven't paid him enough attention to have a solid opinion of him.
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          • feltdizz
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            • May 2008
            • 27531

            #65
            Originally posted by Ernie
            If you are building "Long term"... I agree with what you are saying. However.. considering the context of the thread (building the team around Ben)...letting Timmons go doesn't make sense. The difference with Farrior is...we let him go at a time when our Franchise QB was on the front end of his career. I'm looking at Ben's window when I'm saying letting Timmons go was a mistake.
            I was a Timmons fan and wanted him to remain a Steeler. Hopefully the drop off won't be significant.

            I also can't blame the FO for not matching that offer. That's a serious contract.
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            • Ernie
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              • Aug 2013
              • 8470

              #66
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I was a Timmons fan and wanted him to remain a Steeler. Hopefully the drop off won't be significant.

              I also can't blame the FO for not matching that offer. That's a serious contract.
              Any drop off in terms of production at that position will be significant...

              Did we offer him a contract? I am wondering how far below Miami we were.

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              • SteelCrazy
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                • Aug 2008
                • 5049

                #67
                Originally posted by Ernie
                Any drop off in terms of production at that position will be significant...

                Did we offer him a contract? I am wondering how far below Miami we were.
                I'm really not sure, but I don't believe we offered him a contract. We let market decide and it was too steep.
                2019 Mock

                1. ILB
                2. CB
                3. ILB
                4. S
                5. CB
                6. ILB
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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ernie
                  Any drop off in terms of production at that position will be significant...

                  Did we offer him a contract? I am wondering how far below Miami we were.
                  pretty sure we offered him a contract but we let him test the market
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                  • steelerkeylargo
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 2507

                    #69
                    Mahommes was in the Burgh for a private workout with Haley today....FYI






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                    • SteelCrazy
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5049

                      #70
                      Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
                      Mahommes was in the Burgh for a private workout with Haley today....FYI
                      Yea, that's why Shawn "the med guy" is so damn excited
                      2019 Mock

                      1. ILB
                      2. CB
                      3. ILB
                      4. S
                      5. CB
                      6. ILB
                      7. S

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                      • SS Laser
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1929

                        #71
                        The thing that scares me is IF a QB is the first pick and busts. That possibly hurts at least 2 positions for a few seasons. The QB position and the position that would have been taken instead there. There is a possible bust either way. But that does not have the same ripple effect. Did JJ busting out hurt yes. But if a replacement is not a 1st rd pick it is not as bad. Cause a average JJ say max 5 sacks a season they would be looking for a upgrade now anyway. So scary to pick a 1-2rd QB to me. So many don't pan out. Sitting for a season maybe 2 or not at all does not seem to matter not counting injuries.

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                        • phillyesq
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                          • May 2008
                          • 7568

                          #72
                          Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                          Well, they did try to sign Hightower. So, they may be thinking its a pretty big drop off.
                          Zach Brown signed a very reasonable deal. A 1 year deal for up to $4.65 million. The Steelers could have signed him easily if they wanted him.

                          The Steelers, Butler in particular, liked Hightower a lot in the draft. I think they saw him as an elite guy. If they thought Brown was a significant upgrade over VW, he'd be here, but he's not. I think they have some confidence in Williams.

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                          • SteelCrazy
                            Legend
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5049

                            #73
                            Originally posted by phillyesq
                            Zach Brown signed a very reasonable deal. A 1 year deal for up to $4.65 million. The Steelers could have signed him easily if they wanted him.

                            The Steelers, Butler in particular, liked Hightower a lot in the draft. I think they saw him as an elite guy. If they thought Brown was a significant upgrade over VW, he'd be here, but he's not. I think they have some confidence in Williams.
                            Good point..
                            2019 Mock

                            1. ILB
                            2. CB
                            3. ILB
                            4. S
                            5. CB
                            6. ILB
                            7. S

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                            • NJ-STEELER
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 12563

                              #74
                              Here's a thought that will make you ill. If we knew what we had in villa or Meacham never got hurt.
                              We might have dak prescott as our back up with our 4th round pick last year

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                              • Shawn
                                Legend
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 15131

                                #75
                                Originally posted by SS Laser
                                The thing that scares me is IF a QB is the first pick and busts. That possibly hurts at least 2 positions for a few seasons. The QB position and the position that would have been taken instead there. There is a possible bust either way. But that does not have the same ripple effect. Did JJ busting out hurt yes. But if a replacement is not a 1st rd pick it is not as bad. Cause a average JJ say max 5 sacks a season they would be looking for a upgrade now anyway. So scary to pick a 1-2rd QB to me. So many don't pan out. Sitting for a season maybe 2 or not at all does not seem to matter not counting injuries.
                                The way I see it, the Steelers have the talent to win a SB...now. They will compete for championship next year, first rounder or not. What I remember is the 80's where we didn't have a QB. I'm not willing to sacrifice the future for now. I want a seamless transition from Ben to the next franchise QB. It's a risk, and I've heard the arguments to wait. I'm not saying they are without merit. I will say that the Steelers should feel NO need to reach for a QB. We don't have that kind of need...YET. But, if Mahommes does fall to us, and they believe he is the guy...prepare for it because they will draft him. It will happen.
                                Trolls are people too.

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