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[BradshawsHairdresser]

I honestly don't see what the big deal is, the protest is peaceful and the cause is worthy.

Read the above posts. While the protest is peaceful, a lot of people see it as figuratively taking a dump on the country, all its citizens, and especially those who've served in the military. Granted, that's a perception, but it's a perception a lot of people share. If you're going to protest some injustice, is it really right to disrespect/dishonor those who aren't responsible for the injustice? Even if you have the right to do so?

Personally, while I didn't agree with the protests, they didn't deter me from continuing to watch the NFL. That wasn't the case for everyone, however.

[feltdizz]

Read the above posts. While the protest is peaceful, a lot of people see it as figuratively taking a dump on the country, all its citizens, and especially those who've served in the military. Granted, that's a perception, but it's a perception a lot of people share. If you're going to protest some injustice, is it really right to disrespect/dishonor those who aren't responsible for the injustice? Even if you have the right to do so?

Personally, while I didn't agree with the protests, they didn't deter me from continuing to watch the NFL. That wasn't the case for everyone, however.

His protest was to bring awareness to his cause.

I thought it was a great idea because everyone was talking about it.

He put his money where his mouth is which is nobel IMO. I always respect people who are willing to sacrifice their career, future earnings for a cause they believe in.

[Mr.wizard]

Read the above posts. While the protest is peaceful, a lot of people see it as figuratively taking a dump on the country, all its citizens, and especially those who've served in the military. Granted, that's a perception, but it's a perception a lot of people share. If you're going to protest some injustice, is it really right to disrespect/dishonor those who aren't responsible for the injustice? Even if you have the right to do so?

Personally, while I didn't agree with the protests, they didn't deter me from continuing to watch the NFL. That wasn't the case for everyone, however.

Right, but he has come out and said it's not an anti-military or even an anti-American protest, it's simply a way to bring attention to a particular issue that is a problem in America.

[Shawn]

While I will also defend a person's right to practice personal freedoms, I would say that standing for the flag honors our military a lot more than kneeling. As another poster pointed out, standing doesn't mean you agree with everything your country has done or does, but it does mean you recognize and respect the sacrifices made to preserve your freedom. While a person has the right to disrespect the flag (and I will defend their freedom to do so), that doesn't make it right to do so.

I hear you but I'm less worried about Kap and more worried about how I honor our military. And I do that by respecting others people's ability to express their personal freedoms.

[Shawn]

His protest was to bring awareness to his cause.

I thought it was a great idea because everyone was talking about it.

He put his money where his mouth is which is nobel IMO. I always respect people who are willing to sacrifice their career, future earnings for a cause they believe in.

I agree...

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Right, but he has come out and said it's not an anti-military or even an anti-American protest, it's simply a way to bring attention to a particular issue that is a problem in America.

Just because he said that doesn't mean people are going to buy it. When it comes to a symbol that holds such deep meaning to people as the American flag does, you aren't necessarily going to be able to completely change their perception of what it means through some statement you offer through the media.

If you came over to me and urinated on me, you might have all kinds of words to explain your actions, but you shouldn't be all that surprised if I didn't pay too much attention to what you have to say. Well, that's exactly how some people feel about what Kaepernick did.

[Slapstick]

Just because he said that doesn't mean people are going to buy it. When it comes to a symbol that holds such deep meaning to people as the American flag does, you aren't necessarily going to be able to completely change their perception of what it means through some statement you offer through the media.

If you came over to me and urinated on me, you might have all kinds of words to explain your actions, but you shouldn't be all that surprised if I didn't pay too much attention to what you have to say. Well, that's exactly how some people feel about what Kaepernick did.

Kaepernick didn't urinate on anyone. He sat down. If people think that is akin to urinating on someone, that says more about them than Kaepernick.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Kaepernick didn't urinate on anyone. He sat down. If people think that is akin to urinating on someone, that says more about them than Kaepernick.

Again, it all goes back to one's perception of what the flag stands for. For someone who lost a son, daughter, husband, wife, dad or mom in military service to our country, that person might feel that what Kaepernick did was akin to urinating on them, or on the memory of their loved one. If Kaepernick and others don't care to regard the feelings of those people, it might say quite a bit about them.

[Slapstick]

Again, it all goes back to one's perception of what the flag stands for. For someone who lost a son, daughter, husband, wife, dad or mom in military service to our country, that person might feel that what Kaepernick did was akin to urinating on them, or on the memory of their loved one. If Kaepernick and others don't care to regard the feelings of those people, it might say quite a bit about them.

He did care to regard the feelings of those people...he explained himself...he really didn't need to do that, but he did anyway...

[RuthlessBurgher]

Anyone else pick up on the irony of Kaepernick kneeling for the National Anthem last season while the first black president was in office...

...and now he says he plans to stand during the National Anthem this coming season when the White House is occupied by a notorious xenophobe instead?

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Anyone else pick up on the irony of Kaepernick kneeling for the National Anthem last season while the first black president was in office...

...and now he says he plans to stand during the National Anthem this coming season when the White House is occupied by a notorious xenophobe instead?

Maybe he thinks that, with Trump in office, the problems he was protesting have been resolved (tongue in cheek).

[feltdizz]

Again, it all goes back to one's perception of what the flag stands for. For someone who lost a son, daughter, husband, wife, dad or mom in military service to our country, that person might feel that what Kaepernick did was akin to urinating on them, or on the memory of their loved one. If Kaepernick and others don't care to regard the feelings of those people, it might say quite a bit about them.

"your so vain, you prolly think this protest is about you"

this could be true but we also live in a time where everyone wants to play the victim. If a man says he likes blonde chicks there will be 12 think pieces about how he hated Brunettes and why it hurt their feelings.

How does a protest of police brutality turn into pissing on a dead veterans grave? The deflection and distractions used to hijack this protest were typical American spin.

[Steelhere10]

Brady and smart\elite quarterbacks \players would never do unpatriotic stuff like that.....Anyone who truly understands the national anthem , standing facing the flag and freedom gets it !!!! ....and those that don't .....
well some posters included an image that tells the story of dumb and no brains......He can go on his own time and protest his cause.......

Is this the same Brady that didn't celebrate with Obama but put on lip stick for Trump ?

[feltdizz]

Anyone else pick up on the irony of Kaepernick kneeling for the National Anthem last season while the first black president was in office...

...and now he says he plans to stand during the National Anthem this coming season when the White House is occupied by a notorious xenophobe instead?

unfortunately I think this election told us a lot about America. While both candidates were terrible I think Trump winning told us America is back to basics.

He also needs a job and I think this is why he won't get picked up this year. Who wants to take a chance on a guy who may find a new way to protest another injustice?

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

Sherman is already on the decline, or else Seattle wouldn't entertain the thought of moving him. No way I'd give up a first round pick for him.

Agreed. I like the way that they are talking about it: People are calling, and we are listening, but not trying to move him.