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  • Mr.wizard
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    • May 2014
    • 6686

    #16
    I'm really interested to see what Golson can do.

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    • buccoray61
      Starter
      • Jul 2009
      • 945

      #17
      Originally posted by Mr.wizard
      I'm really interested to see what Golson can do.
      I'm not holding my breath,the guy has missed two full seasons.

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #18
        Golson an unknown commodity in secondary as Steelers prep for draft

        JOE RUTTER

        Saturday, Feb. 18, 2017, 6:57 p.m.

        Updated 3 hours ago

        In many ways, cornerback Senquez Golson remains as much an unknown commodity to the Steelers as the day they drafted him in the second round in 2015 out of Mississippi.

        That's what happens when you miss your first two seasons with injuries, when your next snap in a game — preseason or regular — will be your first, when you didn't suit up for your first training camp and barely were on the field for your second.

        As the Steelers prepare for the 2017 season, they again have a spot in their secondary they hope the 23-year-old Golson can fill. They just aren't sure how much they can count on him, and they won't shy away from addressing cornerback in the draft even if Golson has a clean medical report.

        “Sitting out two years is a concern,” Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert said Thursday in a meeting with reporters, “because we haven't seen him. And when you don't play, it's not really easy to step up and get caught up. It's probably going to take him longer to get caught up just to being a football player.”

        Still, the Steelers haven't given up on Golson, a player they spent the 56th overall pick to take in the draft two springs ago.

        “I think he is an option at this point,” Colbert said. “Just because you get hurt for two seasons doesn't mean you can't come in and contribute. Physically, I know he can. We haven't seen him in extended football play with us.”

        A shoulder injury in the summer that required surgery cost Golson his rookie season. Last year, it was a Lisfranc injury suffered early in training camp that put Golson on injured reserve.

        A few silver linings for Golson are he attended team meetings and studied Keith Butler's defense the past two years. And the injuries are not related.

        But until the Steelers begin offseason workouts, they won't know whether Golson has lost a step because of the foot injury.

        “Anytime a defensive back, wide receiver or a skill guy gets a foot injury, you're a little concerned,” Colbert said. “Because, does he go from a 4.4 to a 4.45 or a 4.5 (in the 40)? We won't know what until we see him out there. So I'm a little more apprehensive.”

        Such apprehension is a reason Colbert won't hesitate adding a cornerback in the draft. Colbert said the 2017 draft class is deep in the secondary because of the proliferation of spread offenses that corners and safeties must defend in college.

        The Steelers already traded two lower-round picks to acquire cornerbacks no longer on the roster — Brandon Boykin (2015) and Justin Gilbert (2016) — in part because of Golson's injuries.

        “When a guy has been injured, you don't want to refrain from adding a guy at that position just because there is potential that he could be OK, if that makes sense,” Colbert said. “Their health situation or their potential to help us won't stop us from adding another player at anybody's position.”

        The Steelers hoped Golson would have filled, at least, the slot cornerback spot in the nickel defense by now. Artie Burns, the 2016 first-round draft pick, supplanted William Gay as the starting left cornerback midway through last season. Ross Cockrell finished his first full season as a starter on the right side and is expected to be re-signed as a restricted free agent.

        Gay finished the season as the slot corner, but the Steelers might be inclined to upgrade the position.

        Gay, 32, has a $2 million base salary and $2.63 salary cap figure that could make him a roster casualty. Al-Hajj Shabazz, who played six snaps on defense, is the only other cornerback on the roster with experience in the Steelers system. Recent offseason signees include Brandon Dixon, Greg Ducre, Mike Hilton and Devonte Johnson.

        “We know we have three guys coming back at cornerback,” Colbert said, presumably referring to Burns, Cockrell and Gay. “The rest of the guys have potential or are unproven. So can we add? Absolutely, we can add in that area.”

        With or without a healthy Golson on the roster.
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • NorthCoast
          Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 26636

          #19
          The Steelers need a safety that can play the ball more than they need a CB. And they need an OLB more than a safety. But hopefully they don't draft an 'edge rusher' in the mold of Jarvis Jones, but rather a football player that can beat a one-on-one.

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #20
            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
            If, say, Sidney Jones from Washington happened to be available at #30, I would have no problem whatsoever with a second consecutive first round corner.
            By Michael David Smith
            March 11, 2017, 3:26 PM EST
            First-round prospect Sidney Jones injured at Washington Pro Day

            University of Washington cornerback Sidney Jones, a likely first-round pick in next month’s NFL draft, has suffered an injury at the school’s Pro Day this afternoon.

            Stephen Cohen of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer tweeted a photo of Jones being carted off the field. Jones went down with an apparent left leg injury on the very last defensive back drill of the day.

            Jones was a three-year starter at Washington who declared for the draft after his junior season. He was an All-Pac-12 player in both his sophomore and junior years. Virtually every mock draft has Jones going in the first round, with some forecasters having him off the board in the Top 10.

            There’s no word yet on the severity of the injury, although people on the scene have described it as looking serious.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • squidkid
              Legend
              • Feb 2012
              • 5847

              #21
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              By Michael David Smith
              March 11, 2017, 3:26 PM EST
              First-round prospect Sidney Jones injured at Washington Pro Day

              University of Washington cornerback Sidney Jones, a likely first-round pick in next month’s NFL draft, has suffered an injury at the school’s Pro Day this afternoon.

              Stephen Cohen of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer tweeted a photo of Jones being carted off the field. Jones went down with an apparent left leg injury on the very last defensive back drill of the day.

              Jones was a three-year starter at Washington who declared for the draft after his junior season. He was an All-Pac-12 player in both his sophomore and junior years. Virtually every mock draft has Jones going in the first round, with some forecasters having him off the board in the Top 10.

              There’s no word yet on the severity of the injury, although people on the scene have described it as looking serious.
              too bad for that kid
              steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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              • steeler_george
                Hall of Famer
                • Dec 2008
                • 3417

                #22
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                By Michael David Smith
                March 11, 2017, 3:26 PM EST
                First-round prospect Sidney Jones injured at Washington Pro Day

                University of Washington cornerback Sidney Jones, a likely first-round pick in next month’s NFL draft, has suffered an injury at the school’s Pro Day this afternoon.

                Stephen Cohen of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer tweeted a photo of Jones being carted off the field. Jones went down with an apparent left leg injury on the very last defensive back drill of the day.

                Jones was a three-year starter at Washington who declared for the draft after his junior season. He was an All-Pac-12 player in both his sophomore and junior years. Virtually every mock draft has Jones going in the first round, with some forecasters having him off the board in the Top 10.
                There’s no word yet on the severity of the injury, although people on the scene have described it as looking serious.
                Sheesh, poor kid! I hope it isnt too severe.


                Just when I was changing on how we should approach the off season FA/Draft. I was starting to think that we should go after LBs, WR, RB, in FA, and to forego all the CB in FA. Then go after CB/S in the strong class of CB/S in this draft. And he was the one I wanted. Maybe he will drop to us at 30 now and injury won't keep him out too long with out lingering affects.

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16041

                  #23
                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  By Michael David Smith
                  March 11, 2017, 3:26 PM EST
                  First-round prospect Sidney Jones injured at Washington Pro Day

                  University of Washington cornerback Sidney Jones, a likely first-round pick in next month’s NFL draft, has suffered an injury at the school’s Pro Day this afternoon.

                  Stephen Cohen of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer tweeted a photo of Jones being carted off the field. Jones went down with an apparent left leg injury on the very last defensive back drill of the day.

                  Jones was a three-year starter at Washington who declared for the draft after his junior season. He was an All-Pac-12 player in both his sophomore and junior years. Virtually every mock draft has Jones going in the first round, with some forecasters having him off the board in the Top 10.

                  There’s no word yet on the severity of the injury, although people on the scene have described it as looking serious.
                  Top 10 talent, injured bad news?
                  All Im thinkin is:

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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Real Deal Steel
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1229

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                    BPA in a position of need is supposed to be our philosophy. If that remains the case, this rumor cannot be true. If there is a "better" linebacker I am confident we take em.
                    Exactly. I think we arel locked into taking a linebacker in the first round. We have no choice with Timmons gone and Jarvis Jones gone via being a bust.

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                    • Real Deal Steel
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1229

                      #25
                      We need a safety just about as bad as we need linebackers. Mitchell is weak in coverage skills. We need a free safety and Mitchell can come down in the box if need be.

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                      • Iron City Inc.
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 3237

                        #26
                        Jones corner can play inside and out and is a great tackler. Special team contributor from day 1. Physical corner with excellent ball skills and a first rounder for sure. However that secondary has a boundry corner who is not nearly as physical but from a cover standpoint is impressive. Kevin King should be on the radar in round 2 King is 6 3 with 4.45 speed and can flip easily and those are 3 things you can't teach. Will need to tackle better but other then that he looks solid in Cal n Colorado games. Saw more then once where got beat off the line but had make up speed and the length to come back n make a play. Very solid 2nd rounder who would fill a need for us and kick Cockrell inside.

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                        • steelerkeylargo
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 2507

                          #27
                          Sydney Jones blew his achilles






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                          • BradshawsHairdresser
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 7056

                            #28
                            Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
                            Sydney Jones blew his achilles
                            What's the general timeline for recovery from that injury?

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                            • Real Deal Steel
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 1229

                              #29
                              Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                              What's the general timeline for recovery from that injury?
                              Year..year and a half. And who knows how effective he is afterwards. Remember Kobe after he blew his?

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                              • steeler_george
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 3417

                                #30
                                Originally posted by steelerkeylargo
                                Sydney Jones blew his achilles
                                feel real bad for that kid...

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