This loss is on 3 individuals

[Oviedo]

i'm saying, poor play calling can make players look worse. And make teams lose.

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Just like poor execution makes coaches look worse.

Like I said, do you know what was Haley play call versus a Ben audible? If you do you are the only one. Bottom-line it was a team effort in sucking.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Just like poor execution makes coaches look worse.

Like I said, do you know what was Haley play call versus a Ben audible? If you do you are the only one. Bottom-line it was a team effort in sucking.

so, that's what you believe? Haley called GREAT plays and Ben audibled out of every one of them. seriously?

no way you could type that with a straight face, Ovi...

[phillyesq]

so, that's what you believe? Haley called GREAT plays and Ben audibled out of every one of them. seriously?

no way you could type that with a straight face, Ovi...

Not to mention, Haley is the one responsible for the personnel on the field, not Ben. It's not Ben's call to be running 2 and 3 TE sets, which play into the Ravens' strength.

[SS Laser]

Haley's calls were not horrible last game with Landry as QB? Ben left many open receivers hanging in the wind. Been his MO this season for sure. Love Ben but find and hit the open man. Some time he locks onto a WR in his head before the ball is even snapped. Couple plays to Coates yesterday. And besides a decoy Coates is stinking it up also. When not 100% lets bang into Ben's head to take what he can and not always go for the bigger play. Also even when Ben did check down his throws were bad short? Not sure why there? And the oline pass blocked ok but got manhandled in run blocking. Total offensive loss including coaches. Defense had it's issues. Also overmatched at times. But was holding it together for the most part. Ok rant done.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Not to mention, Haley is the one responsible for the personnel on the field, not Ben. It's not Ben's call to be running 2 and 3 TE sets, which play into the Ravens' strength.

ding ding... on top of that, personnel dictates audibles that can be called.

[DukieBoy]

Dejan Kovacevic has an interesting article on his website today, fits very well for this threat. Strong opinions; Recommended reading.

[SteelCrazy]

Haley killed the drive 3 times yesterday running the ball on 3rd downs when we had no shot at getting any yardage. Ben played like crap too and killed at least 3 drives himself, if not more. Tomlin is clueless as to what his assistants are up to and that makes it fall on him in the end.


It was a huge cluster-fudge yesterday and more than enough blame to go around to a lot of different folks....

[SteelBucks]

At the risk of sounding like Crash: 1) Haley. 2) Haley. 3) Haley.

Funny how much better they looked when they went to no-huddle in the 4th and Haley wasn't calling plays. Of course, I've had this opinion for quite some time...

What SOD said.....

[Shoe]

This team is SO MUCH better when Haley's NOT calling plays. Has been that way from day 1.

That is so incredibly simplistic and disrespectful to the work he surely does during the week. While it sometimes looks so easy when Ben just drops back and heaves it deep, it all is a part of game texture and setting up those plays.

The expectation for this team's offense has been 30+ points a game, as it was a lot of the time last year.

If you really think that they did all that they did last year, without an effective OC, then... I don't how to respond to that. Do you think our offense really is (potentially) "one of the best offenses in the league" with an albatross of an OC? Or our franchise QB has had the best statistical stretch of his career, in spite of his OC??

[NorthCoast]

Read this over at the Depot:
Le’Veon Bell Says Even Practices Are Too Sloppy

if that doesn't convince you there is a coaching problem then you have just made up your mind to defend them regardless.

[SS Laser]

So 2 TE were one for sure is James can't run a pattern. It would not have mattered Ben would have either not seen the open player or over/under thrown him. If this offense was as good as some thought a monkey could call the plays and it would not matter. When you boast about putting 30 points up this looks even worse on the entire offense including Haley. But they were overmatched and outplayed again period.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Read this over at the Depot:
Le’Veon Bell Says Even Practices Are Too Sloppy

if that doesn't convince you there is a coaching problem then you have just made up your mind to defend them regardless.

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[feltdizz]

Read this over at the Depot:
Le’Veon Bell Says Even Practices Are Too Sloppy

if that doesn't convince you there is a coaching problem then you have just made up your mind to defend them regardless.

Actually... he said they need to prescribe better because they made some of these mistakes in practice.

That article also also pointed out that last year we were one of the least penalized teams and this year we aren't one of the most penalized teams.

I think its injuries. You replace the center after a few plays, Landry started last week (different cadence) and Ben rushed back this week.

I think we get it together now that Ben had his annual injury return game.

[NorthCoast]

Stats without context is for fantasy owners and people who don't pay attention to the game.

Ben's numbers weren't bad on the surface.

Then you realize the Steelers had more penalty yards, than TOTAL yards, after three quarters and were down 21-0.

Ben has been turned into Philip Rivers II. Basically irrelevant, except for fantasy owners.

Joe Starkey then of the Trib stated:

"Ravens fired an offensive coordinator during a year in which they won Super Bowl. Why can't #Steelers?"

-Joe Starkey October 12 2014

Since that quote? The Steelers have scored 20 points or less on offense, in 18 of 36 games. An even 50/50 split.

If you think that's good enough? You think that's acceptable? Then you've lowered your standards just to prop up Todd Haley.

Just like Joe Starkey has, who did a complete turn-around AFTER the Steelers finished the 2014 season with 20 points or less on offense in six of their final 10 games that season.

20 points or less on offense in 11 of their past 17 road games.

That's Joe Walton territory people.

Why is Todd Haley getting praise?

Have some goddamn pride will you?

and BA's offense was 17 for 32 scoring 20 or more before he was jettisoned. The difference has been big bursts of offense on occasion under Haley.

[NJ-STEELER]

Not to mention, Haley is the one responsible for the personnel on the field, not Ben. It's not Ben's call to be running 2 and 3 TE sets, which play into the Ravens' strength.

Exactly. 1st play of the game was a 3 TE pass play.

Another problem i see with Haley, and I'm not a Haley hater per se'.

Is is he has to design some plays to get AB open or get bell in space. AB was targeted
twice in the first half. That's not enough
They showed AB being bracketed by 3 defenders on a pattern down the sideline.

Im sure other top receivers get that treatment around the league too. But against the Giants, their OC put Beckham inside on a quick slant and he beat then for a long game winning TD in the last 2 minutes of a game.
We saw in Miami how they under utilized bell.

Get these guys going early. Put AB in motion, bring him around on a reverse.
Use the damn talent you have on that side of the ball.

Seems like he has no idea on how to get someone in a rhythm