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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #16
    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
    There's a beat reporter who claims they were looking to trade up last year for trae wayans but couldn't find a partner.


    At least we know they are looking to fix the problem
    To leap from 22 up into the top 10 is too steep (Waynes was taken 11th overall last year).
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • NJ-STEELER
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      • May 2008
      • 12563

      #17
      Sorry.
      Left out if he dropped to like the late teens.

      But they were exploring the option

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      • squidkid
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        • Feb 2012
        • 5847

        #18
        Originally posted by Slapstick
        And some 'fans' on here never stop crying about it...
        crying with laughter, maybe
        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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        • Chadman
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          • May 2008
          • 6537

          #19
          There are some positions in the draft where 'athletes' are more readily found in all rounds as opposed to being confined to 1st round success.

          CB, WR & RB are the best examples, where physical attributes can make you as valuable as someone who 'studies the game'. Ike Taylor is a great example- all reports were Ike wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but boy could he run. As a result, with a bit of time & work, Ike became a stud CB for a long time.

          Not all great CB's come out of the 4th round & down, and not all bust CB's are in Round 1.

          But it is a position where you can draft athletes in later rounds with a greater chance of success than say, LT, DE or QB.



          The only reasoni Chadman isn't banging the CB drum is that we added not 1, not 2 but 3 young CB's to the roster last season. All 3 should be back this season, and Golson is highly regarded.

          Why add yet another young CB to the roster? Adding a veteran until they develop makes MUCH more sense.
          The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

          Light up the darkness.

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          • NJ-STEELER
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            • May 2008
            • 12563

            #20
            [QUOTE=Chad



            The only reasoni Chadman isn't banging the CB drum is that we added not 1, not 2 but 3 young CB's to the roster last season. All 3 should be back this season, and Golson is highly regarded.

            Why add yet another young CB to the roster? Adding a veteran until they develop makes MUCH more sense.[/QUOTE]

            We have 3 LBs who are just as young and with higher pedigree then those secondary players and that's not stopping anyone from wanting to get an edge rusher early in this years draft

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            • Chadman
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              • May 2008
              • 6537

              #21
              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
              We have 3 LBs who are just as young and with higher pedigree then those secondary players and that's not stopping anyone from wanting to get an edge rusher early in this years draft
              Not Chadman.

              Interior DL or Safety on D.

              OG or TE on O.
              The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

              Light up the darkness.

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              • squidkid
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                • Feb 2012
                • 5847

                #22
                its gonna be a DL or OLB in the first
                safety will be a reach
                te will be a reach
                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                • pfelix73
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3463

                  #23
                  Originally posted by squidkid
                  its gonna be a DL or OLB in the first
                  safety will be a reach
                  te will be a reach
                  No need to do a mock for Steelers this year in 1st round, they have the luxury of waiting it out and taking BPA again. But yea, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone is expecting a TE or CB and they take a DL. There will be some good ones that will be available, me thinks.

                  I still think they will get a TE and a S in FA....
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                  • RuthlessBurgher
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                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #24
                    I wouldn't argue with a DT pick. It's an all time great draft class for DT's so if that means that a DT who would typically come off the board in the top 15 of most drafts falls to #25 this year because of the incredible overall depth at this position, I won't mind that pick at all.

                    However...a couple of years ago, we had an all time great draft class for WR's, and instead of jumping on one early, we took advantage of the awesome depth and got a 1st round talent in Martavis Bryant in the 4th round. We potentially could wait a little bit on a DT this year and still get a darn good one in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round.
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • NJ-STEELER
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                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      #25
                      I also wouldn't mind a DL in the 1st.

                      If it happens, I think we will likely more 4-3. something this defense should be playing more of with tuiit and Hayward on the D line

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                      • Oviedo
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                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        #26
                        I'm liking Vernon Butler at #25.

                        I read something over the weekend that indicates we played and will continue to play a 4-2-5 more and more often under Butler.
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • RuthlessBurgher
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                          • May 2008
                          • 33208

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          I'm liking Vernon Butler at #25.

                          I read something over the weekend that indicates we played and will continue to play a 4-2-5 more and more often under Butler.
                          In today's NFL, all teams now play more 4-2-5 and 4-1-6 than 4-3-4 or 3-4-4. It's not some new Butler thing...we used a ton of nickel and dime 4 man fronts with LeBeau as our D.C.
                          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #28
                            Could Steelers go CB for first time since 1997?



                            By Dale Lolley February 29, 2016



                            Over the weekend, I wrote that if the choice came down to taking the fourth or fifth-best corne, the Steelers could choose to pass on taking a cornerback in the first round of the draft to instead take a top-rated safety.


                            Then, we saw them all on the field together Monday. And it became apparent that the top five or six corners in this draft are better than the top safeties at least in one area that really counts - speed.


                            While most of the top corners showed average to above average speed, with the exception of Mackensie Alexander, who did not run, the top-rated safeties were somewhat underwhelming.


                            That could lead the Steelers to take a cornerback in the first round of the draft for the first time since 1997, when they selected Chad Scott.


                            Vonn Bell of Ohio State, Karl Joseph of West Virginia and Jeremy Cash of Duke didn’t run, but other guys, such as Boise’s Darien Thompson and Southern Utah’s Miles Killebrew did.


                            And while nobody would have expected a pair of big safeties - Thompson is 6-1, 208, while Killebrew is a monster-like 6-2, 219 - to break 4.5, both ran in the 4.7 range.


                            That won’t be enough to get either into the first round. In fact, both might be considered more third-round picks because of their lack of speed, despite both being very good, productive college football players.


                            Bell, Joseph or Cash could change my mind with their on-campus workouts, but I now don’t see the Steelers passing on a corner to take a safety in the first round.


                            My pick coming out of the combine would be William Jackson III. I thought he might not run great at the combine, which could mean he might be available in the second round - and by great, I’m talking in the 4.5 to 4.6 range.


                            But Jackson, at 6-0, 190 pounds, ran a 4.37 40 and looked good in the position drills. I liked Jackson going into the combine and he likely forced his way into the conversation among the top corners available.


                            That should, counting Jalen Ramsey of Florida State, make for five possible first-round corners, with Alexander, Vernon Hargreaves of Florida and Eli Apple of Ohio State being the others.


                            Of the four in that group who did run Monday, all were at 4.5 or under in the 40. And I have no doubt that Alexander also will run a sub-4.5 40.


                            The Steelers should get a chance to draft one of those five, with Ramsey being the only one they will have no shot at since he’ll likely go top-10.


                            Then, they can draft their safety in the second or third round.



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                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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