I've Always Been a Tomlin Supporter BUT......

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  • WindyCitySteel
    Legend
    • Nov 2011
    • 15684

    #16
    Oh, and flashback to training camp. The more this dope touches, the more things go to crap.

    Mike Tomlin has been more actively involved in what the defense will be doing in 2015, and it’s already been evident at training camp at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe. Tomlin has spent periods of several days this week working with the cornerbacks and safeties on zone coverages similar to what he employed when he was the secondary coach with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.


    It’s the first time since he became head coach in 2007 that Tomlin outwardly has put his imprint on the defense and changed the way the Steelers play in the secondary. He didn’t do it his first eight years out of deference and respect for LeBeau, a Hall of Fame player and one of the greatest assistant coaches in NFL history.

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    • squidkid
      Legend
      • Feb 2012
      • 5847

      #17
      Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
      Not to mention taking the ball out of Ben and ABs' hands and putting them in Landry and AVs' hands on the fake FG. Completely braindead call that resulted in a 10-pt swing that changed momentum and cost us a win.

      He's a terrible football coach. Hoping we lose out, he gets fired, and Munchak - the best coach on the roster - takes over.

      munchak isnt qualified
      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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      • WindyCitySteel
        Legend
        • Nov 2011
        • 15684

        #18
        Originally posted by squidkid
        munchak isnt qualified
        I disagree. He turned Gilbert from a bum into a Pro Bowler, has Wallace playing competently and is working with a freaking Army Ranger wide receiver converted to left tackle.

        He had garbage to work with in Tennessee. He will get another shot somewhere and we'll be stuck with Billy Ray Valentine.

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        • Iron City Inc.
          Hall of Famer
          • Jun 2013
          • 3241

          #19
          I would have liked us to go for it on 4th and goal. Doesn't mean we would make it but I would have preferred it over the field goal. 500 plus yards of O. Our issues are on D both at OLB and and on the back end. We need to clean that up to consistently win in this league.

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          • Ernie
            Legend
            • Aug 2013
            • 8470

            #20
            Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
            Not to mention taking the ball out of Ben and ABs' hands and putting them in Landry and AVs' hands on the fake FG. Completely braindead call that resulted in a 10-pt swing that changed momentum and cost us a win.

            He's a terrible football coach. Hoping we lose out, he gets fired, and Munchak - the best coach on the roster - takes over.
            for the first time in like forever... I don't see a pile of "Tomlin" guys coming to his rescue for a comment like this one.... which, by the way... I agree with your thoughts. My point is, folks might be coming around the idea that Tomlin may not be here long term...with the continued "Middle of the pack" teams that he's been the HC of these past several years.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27564

              #21
              Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
              Not to mention taking the ball out of Ben and ABs' hands and putting them in Landry and AVs' hands on the fake FG. Completely braindead call that resulted in a 10-pt swing that changed momentum and cost us a win.

              He's a terrible football coach. Hoping we lose out, he gets fired, and Munchak - the best coach on the roster - takes over.
              Tomlin isnt going anywhere bro...
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27564

                #22
                Originally posted by Ernie
                for the first time in like forever... I don't see a pile of "Tomlin" guys coming to his rescue for a comment like this one.... which, by the way... I agree with your thoughts. My point is, folks might be coming around the idea that Tomlin may not be here long term...with the continued "Middle of the pack" teams that he's been the HC of these past several years.
                Well its Sunday and we just lost in Seattle. Most fans probably arent on here because its a holiday weekend and most had this game as a loss when the season started.
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • WindyCitySteel
                  Legend
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 15684

                  #23
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  Tomlin isnt going anywhere bro...
                  I know, and that makes me sad. He has absolutely no accountability at all. Unless you think this team can win three road playoff games (I'll wait for you to stop laughing to reply), this will be the fifth straight year we haven't had a serious contending team.

                  Ben's prime has been wasted. ****ing shame.

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                  • RuthlessBurgher
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 33208

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WindyCitySteel
                    Hoping we lose out
                    This is not a surprising revelation from WCS. Congratulations on getting what you wanted today. Enjoy rooting against the Steelers for the rest of the year.

                    To quote Cyndi Lauper, "I see your true colors shining through..." Nice Trading Places reference when talking about hiring a black coach too, Louis Winthorpe.
                    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      #25
                      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                      This is not a surprising revelation from WCS. Congratulations on getting what you wanted today. Enjoy rooting against the Steelers for the rest of the year.

                      To quote Cyndi Lauper, "I see your true colors shining through..." Nice Trading Places reference when talking about hiring a black coach too, Louis Winthorpe.
                      I'm not crazy. Thank goodness someone has the balls to call it like they see it...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • bostonsteeler
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1529

                        #26
                        Not sure where all the Tomlin hate is coming from. He made a few judgment calls that were always going to be questioned.

                        We had three picks turned into TDs. The Landry Jones trick pick, and two of Ben's picks. Ben's first pick was on him. The second should have been a PI. That's 21 points. Its tough to get back from.
                        Wilson is an outstanding QB. Our D played very well through nearly two and a half quarters -- the scores they got were from the picks.

                        It was a bad game, but at least some of it was bad luck, and the rest cascaded.

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                        • 7upnext
                          Backup
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 367

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ernie
                          for the first time in like forever... I don't see a pile of "Tomlin" guys coming to his rescue for a comment like this one.... which, by the way... I agree with your thoughts. My point is, folks might be coming around the idea that Tomlin may not be here long term...with the continued "Middle of the pack" teams that he's been the HC of these past several years.
                          after FA and the draft the Steelers will have one of the most talented teams in the league next year. I think Colbert realizes he has to draft a stud in the secondary to get any production as Tomlin obviously cannot develop any. So expect a safety or cornerback to be the first pick and wouldn't surprise me to see multiple picks either. Any coach should be able to get the Steelers to 12 wins next season and a deep run in the playoffs. So no, don't expect Tomlin to go anywhere because the talent will win out and he'll again be talked up by his fanboys as a top coach even though he really isn't. But I won't care because as long as he just stands on the sidelines and keeps his mouth shut like he did in 08 they can win a SB. Any input..and I mean any..and it'll end up like 2010 or worse.

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                          • BowCatShot
                            Benchwarmer
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 99

                            #28
                            Did the Rooneys ever actually interview Ron Rivera? I can't remember whether they did but I do know that he was a candidate way back then. Instead they, in their wisdom, selected that ding dong Tomlin who we're stuck with now.

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                            • WindyCitySteel
                              Legend
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 15684

                              #29
                              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                              This is not a surprising revelation from WCS. Congratulations on getting what you wanted today. Enjoy rooting against the Steelers for the rest of the year.
                              I wanted them to win today. I wanted them to beat a good team on the road, show improvement coming off the bye week, show that they have learned something.

                              Instead, I got another Tomlin slopfest.

                              It will never end until he is gone. He's flown this team into the ground.

                              8-8 with this talent should result in firing. Instead, he'll probably get a five year extension.

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                              • WindyCitySteel
                                Legend
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 15684

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bostonsteeler
                                Not sure where all the Tomlin hate is coming from. He made a few judgment calls that were always going to be questioned.

                                We had three picks turned into TDs. The Landry Jones trick pick, and two of Ben's picks. Ben's first pick was on him. The second should have been a PI. That's 21 points. Its tough to get back from.
                                Those weren't pick sixes. In every instance, Tomlin's defense had a chance to stop the Seahawks.

                                The secondary he took under his wing in the preseason, the one he refuses to insert Boykin in or remove Blake from, the one that is the worst in the NFL, was torched for a touchdown every single time.

                                This is the team he built and that he coaches.

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