Whisenhunt fired...Again!

[Djfan]

Whiz might not be a very good head coach, but he is an excellent offensive coordinator.

That's my very sought after take on it. It never hurt Norv Turner too much. He's doing OK.

[snarky]

Whisenhunt is a genius at "clock management."

If he is, Tomlin should hire him as an assistant. Tomlin is great at many things. Clock management is not one of those things.

[Shoe]

He sucks. He is like 3-20 with Tennessee. He has never develop a QB. He was lucky enough to inherit Kurt Warner who made him look better than we was.

Warner was an afterthought when he came to AZ; he stunk (with the nyg?) had people saying he was toast. He came to az, and became thought of as HOF material. that's what got haley hired too.

seems to me that whiz is a fine coordinator, not a good hc. we tend to think of it as a negative, but we all cant be the head-man.

[7upnext]

Glad the Front Office made the absolutely right choice when they hired Tomlin over Whisenhunt although I'm sure Whisenhunt is a genius at "clock management." See how far that has gotten him.

Wisenhunt was a major reason why they won a SB in 05. He's also been to another SB w/ARI when he had a franchise QB in Warner (who he resurrected and that ARI was pretty average too). He finally gets another franchise QB in Mariota and they fire him. That franchise is as dumb as OP's post. I'll never understand why teams don't accept their plight and take their lumps while building a team. You first get your QB, protect him, than give him weapons followed by a defense. That is generally how you succeed. He inherited an awful team. That awful team then drafts a franchise QB and to expect year one success is not reasonable. They lost by 2 to the Colts, by 1 to Buffalo and 3 to ATL. They are performing exactly as they should be. If only he was black than Oviedo and Slapstick would have been chomping on the bit to hire him here.

[7upnext]

Warner was an afterthought when he came to AZ; he stunk (with the nyg?) had people saying he was toast. He came to az, and became thought of as HOF material. that's what got haley hired too.

seems to me that whiz is a fine coordinator, not a good hc. we tend to think of it as a negative, but we all cant be the head-man.

not sure how you can say he's not HC material when he's taken a pretty average team (ARI) to the SB and was an inch from winning. It took maybe the best catch and throw in SB history to beat ARI. In fact, there was a legit 14 point swing (on arguably the best defensive play in SB history) when JH pick six. At worst that was a 10 point swing. The Steelers were on the ropes and that play changed everything. To me, getting there with that team is a major accomplishment I'd put right up there with getting the Steelers and a young Ben to the SB. Yes I agree, as a coordinator he's the man. To judge him on his time in TEN is lazy and should be reserved for the truly stupid here in this forum.

[7upnext]

In Whisenhunt's last season as head coach in Arizona in, he lost 11 out of the last 12 games, following a 4-0 start. In his first year in Tennessee as head coach last season, they were 2-14. This year, he won the opener then lost 6 straight games. So in his last 35 games as a head coach, he had 4 wins and 31 losses. Ouch. That pretty much explains it.

He took a very bad ARI team that was 5-11 the year before and led them to 8-8 in 2007. In 2008 they went to the SB and almost beat us. Went 10-6 (first 10 wins season since 1976) and lost to eventual SB champs NO in the playoffs. Wow, how horrible this guy is huh? 2010 Warner retired and there weren't any available franchise QBs for them to draft over the next 3 seasons (they along with every other team missed on Wilson). No QB and aging team equals bad seasons for any coach. He was fired after 2012. There wasn't a franchise QB in the 2013 draft either so they probably did him a favor. He promptly went to SD where like he did with Warner, he helped resurrect Rivers who had been in decline and he had his best season of his career statistically.

Goes to TEN which was in full rebuild mode having lost Locker, Britt, Johnson and coming off an awful draft. It was going to be a project. It was obvious they lost on purpose to get a shot at a franchise QB. They landed him and had a good draft. Dumb move on their part. I can't think of anyone better to groom or coach a legit franchise QB. I'm obviously a fanboy but unlike some, I can admit that he (nor is almost anyone) good enough to win without a franchise QB. Just sucks for him to finally be given some talent at the position after all those years as HC to turn around and fire him. BTW Mariota has 9 TD, 5 INT and a 93 rating. What in God's name did they expect? They need to be bad enough to draft high so they can continue to build around him.

[Slapstick]

In Whisenhunt's last season as head coach in Arizona in, he lost 11 out of the last 12 games, following a 4-0 start. In his first year in Tennessee as head coach last season, they were 2-14. This year, he won the opener then lost 6 straight games. So in his last 35 games as a head coach, he had 4 wins and 31 losses. Ouch. That pretty much explains it.

In Tomlin's last 35 games, the Steelers are 22-13...but Whiz is probably better...

[Shoe]

not sure how you can say he's not HC material when he's taken a pretty average team (ARI) to the SB and was an inch from winning. It took maybe the best catch and throw in SB history to beat ARI. In fact, there was a legit 14 point swing (on arguably the best defensive play in SB history) when JH pick six. At worst that was a 10 point swing. The Steelers were on the ropes and that play changed everything. To me, getting there with that team is a major accomplishment I'd put right up there with getting the Steelers and a young Ben to the SB. Yes I agree, as a coordinator he's the man. To judge him on his time in TEN is lazy and should be reserved for the truly stupid here in this forum.

So you're going to ignore the fact that that team basically backed its way into the playoffs? They wouldn't have even qualified for the playoffs had they not lived in such a poor division at the time. So if you want to be condescending about it in trying to point out how great that '08 team was, then you probably need to take a real look back yourself.

So they caught a good run up to the Super Bowl and gave us a good run for it. Beyond that? Whiz has a string of 8-8 type seasons to show. I'm not anti-Whiz, mind you. I'm just pointing out that, all he's really done is show that anything can happen if you make it into the playoffs.

[Oviedo]

If only he was black than Oviedo and Slapstick would have been chomping on the bit to hire him here.

So once again we are are back to the real problem that 7up has with Tomlin

Everyone else is discussing Whisenhunt's terrible record and then we get this

[phillyesq]

In Tomlin's last 35 games, the Steelers are 22-13...but Whiz is probably better...

Complete straw man argument. Who has argued, in this thread, that Whiz is the better HC?

[Slapstick]

No one. But that's Slap. He doesn't discuss, he trolls.

BWAH-HAH-HAH!!

Crash's irony meter just broke...

(THAT shows a proper understanding of irony!)

[Slapstick]

So, why did the Steelers bother to sign Ben, Tomlin and Haley to contract extensions recently?

[Oviedo]

So, why did the Steelers bother to sign Ben, Tomlin and Haley to contract extensions recently?

Damn...there you go interjecting the reality that the people who matter, own the team and make the decisions clearly disagree with the complainers. They are the only opinions that matter and clearly they are pretty happy with what they have.

[Oviedo]

So Jerry Jones IN YOUR OPINION, is a GOOD evaluator of NFL talent?

Rooney can disagree with me all he wants. You know what agrees with me since 2012?

The results on the field.

Jerry Jones may not be good but I'll bet he is better than you and 90% of the internet experts. I know the Steelers are 100% better than your arm chair after the fact quarterbacking

Give an example of where in your previous 16 posts you have established a record of success and accuracy in predicting future outcomes. Feel free to use your other board names too

[phillyesq]

Damn...there you go interjecting the reality that the people who matter, own the team and make the decisions clearly disagree with the complainers. They are the only opinions that matter and clearly they are pretty happy with what they have.

When you spent the better part of the last decade railing against Dick Lebeau, I don't remember seeing this same argument from you.