Steelers sign a new kicker

[RuthlessBurgher]

He was not a good kicker last year in a warm weather stadium. In fact, one of the worst in the league. He was literally days away from being cut by the hapless Jags. It was a bad decision to waste a draft pick on a questionable talent in decline. And now he's out having cost the team a draft choice, a game, and salary cap money. I just don't see how you can spin this as a good decision. I was against this pick up from the moment it was announced and posted as much at the time.

I'll admit I didn't love the Suisham pick at the time either. He'd not been good. At all. But in 2010 he played quite well. He was 14 out of 15 for the year and had a game where he kicked 4 FGs of 40+ yards including an OT winner (only Kicker to do so). So in 2011 when he was not good he at least had proven he could kick successfully in the toughest stadium to do so. He clearly worked hard and something clicked after bouncing around a bit.

I can top Sushi's 4 over 40 with Scobee's 3 over 50....Scobee has the NFL record for most 50+ yard FG's in a single game (3) and he accounted for all of the points in that game for the Jaguars (a 12-7 victory in 2011 over, coincidentally, the Ravens).

[Ghost]

And yet Tomlin was afraid to send him out (rightly so) to win the game with a 50 yarder. It was a bad pick up. It happens. There was a reason Jax was cutting him. 2011 was a lifetime ago.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

clearly didn't work out - but I won't second guess Colbert's decision. Scobee had a productive and consistent career in Jax.

No offense dude, but that's total bull sh!t. Scobee had one of the worst percentages made in field goals in the entire NFL last year. 77% made and was a piece of sh!t field goal kicker in a warm climate. This is a total FAIL by the front office. And we lost a draft pick. It's actually beyond failure. A disgusting waste that cost us a winnable game.

Just an observation...He did have a solid career, just doesn't seem to have it like he used to.

[RuthlessBurgher]

It could just be that Scobee has what it takes physically to be a successful NFL kicker (a strong, accurate leg for the vast majority of his career) but may not have what it takes mentally (because really how much real pressure do you feel in Jacksonville who never even sniffs the playoffs). It could be that the pressure of the opening night stage against the defending champs kicking for a contender for the first time got to him, and doinking that XP in week 2 snowballed it, and he was never able to recover between the ears.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

It seems several kickers are off to poor starts this season. But perhaps that's what the NFL wanted.

[NorthCoast]

He was not a good kicker last year in a warm weather stadium. In fact, one of the worst in the league. He was literally days away from being cut by the hapless Jags. It was a bad decision to waste a draft pick on a questionable talent in decline. And now he's out having cost the team a draft choice, a game, and salary cap money. I just don't see how you can spin this as a good decision. I was against this pick up from the moment it was announced and posted as much at the time.

I'll admit I didn't love the Suisham pick at the time either. He'd not been good. At all. But in 2010 he played quite well. He was 14 out of 15 for the year and had a game where he kicked 4 FGs of 40+ yards including an OT winner (only Kicker to do so). So in 2011 when he was not good he at least had proven he could kick successfully in the toughest stadium to do so. He clearly worked hard and something clicked after bouncing around a bit.

So what you are saying then is you are 50/50 on picking kicker talent?.... same as the Steelers.

[Ghost]

So what you are saying then is you are 50/50 on picking kicker talent?.... same as the Steelers.

So what you are saying is you have nothing to add to this thread besides being a giant douche.

[feltdizz]

So what you are saying then is you are 50/50 on picking kicker talent?.... same as the Steelers.

lmao...10 characters

[WindyCitySteel]

Maybe the call wasn't right, none the less that final throw was a game management type throw, but with the added pressure of it being 4th down and 1 or 2 to clinch the game. As always, there were any number of other plays that could have been made that would have eliminated the need for that conversion. All-in-all its an easy throw to make and should have been. The Steelers didn't ask Vick to be Ben, just secure the ball and make the standard throws. Just my take on it, I liked the call to go for it, there were better options IMO from a play call standpoint, but that one wasn't horrible by any stretch.

I would even expect Landry Jones to be able to make that throw, that's a pretty standard NFL quarterback throw.

Pappy

Ben said today on 93.7 that they never practiced that rollout and throw back with Vick.

Neat.

[NorthCoast]

So what you are saying is you have nothing to add to this thread besides being a giant douche.

Maybe this will help (sorry too long to post entire article):

[URL]http://lostlettermen.com/forget-the-nfls-qb-crisis-theres-a-full-blown-college-kickers-epidemic/[/URL]

Bottomline, kicker talent just isn't there right now and it looks to be a luck of the draw.

Here is a clip:

The Wall Street Journal recently did a story on [URL="http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-nfl-has-a-quarterback-crisis-1441819454"]“Why the NFL Has a Quarterback Crisis.”[/URL] Well if you think there’s a lack of quality quarterbacks in the NFL, avert your eyes from college kickers.
The struggle of college kickers — a running joke in the form of the Twitter hashtag #CollegeKickers — has become a full-blown epidemic. And it continues to spread each week.
[URL="http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/12/25/college-football-kickers-roberto-aguayo/20892943/"]The field goal conversion rate might be up to the low 70s[/URL], but it still feels like any attempt over 40 yards — which, mind you, means the ball is all the way at the opposing 23-yard line — has about the same chance of success as a Hail Mary; or even worse odds if your QB is Tanner Mangum.

[Ghost]

Then you should have just posted that if you weren't trying to be a dick.

And I stand by what I said. In this deal the Steelers got swindled. The 3-13 Jags we're going to cut their horrible kicker within a few days but instead found a way to to finagle a draft pick. Steelers look like chumps. Why didn't they just bring in the FA they just signed this week in the first place instead of losing a draft pick and a game in the process. It's ok to admit the screwed up in this particular instance.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Ben said today on 93.7 that they never practiced that rollout and throw back with Vick.

Neat.

Not surprising when he'd had only one practice with the first team.

[NorthCoast]

Then you should have just posted that if you weren't trying to be a dick.

And I stand by what I said. In this deal the Steelers got swindled. The 3-13 Jags we're going to cut their horrible kicker within a few days but instead found a way to to finagle a draft pick. Steelers look like chumps. Why didn't they just bring in the FA they just signed this week in the first place instead of losing a draft pick and a game in the process. It's ok to admit the screwed up in this particular instance.

You aren't getting the irony of your post. You rip the Steelers for grabbing Scobee saying it was obvious he lost it and was a horrible trade. And in the same post admit you would have passed on Suisham while the Steelers did well to get him.

Hindsight is 20/20....

[RuthlessBurgher]

Then you should have just posted that if you weren't trying to be a dick.

And I stand by what I said. In this deal the Steelers got swindled. The 3-13 Jags we're going to cut their horrible kicker within a few days but instead found a way to to finagle a draft pick. Steelers look like chumps. Why didn't they just bring in the FA they just signed this week in the first place instead of losing a draft pick and a game in the process. It's ok to admit the screwed up in this particular instance.

Did we hornswagle the Giants by getting a draft pick from them when we were just going to cut Brad Wing anyway?

[Ghost]

You aren't getting the irony of your post. You rip the Steelers for grabbing Scobee saying it was obvious he lost it and was a horrible trade. And in the same post admit you would have passed on Suisham while the Steelers did well to get him.

Hindsight is 20/20....

Accept I'm not paid a salary in the 6 or 7 figures to review talent. My guessing didn't cost them a draft choice (we've never done anything with a 6th rounder, right...) and a divisional game. And the guy they've chosen to replace him was available at the time, cost league minimum, and no draft choices. Why wasn't he brought in the first time to at least compete? I'm not sure what it is you're arguing about. This was a bad deal. It happens. Doesn't mean it's a common occurrence but in my opinion you'd have to be an imbecile to not acknowledge they f@cked up with this choice.