Steeler Offense

[Discipline of Steel]

Sorry but I just cant call the Steeler offense 'elite' until we start putting the ball in the end zone from close range. Yes its a requirement.
What are some things we could try to break through and become red zone proficient?

I was thinking start doing some no huddle stuff so we could run off two quick plays in succession, without allowing the D to adjust for the second play...

[MCHammer]

I would suggest not chucking all your team's momentum overboard with an amateur hour trick play. Elite offenses don't relay on trickery to score.

I would also suggest utilizing the QB sneak from time to time. Ben is big and strong, but on 3 and 1 we tend to not trust him and the offensive line to pick up what should be a sure thing the vast majority of the time. I know people will say you don't want your starting QB hurt, but he can be hurt on any play and I can't remember the last time Tomlin pulled Ben during garbage time whether we were winning or getting blown out (which is reckless, but that is how this team rolls).

[RuthlessBurgher]

Brady ran the QB sneak on more than one occasion, for what it's worth.

[feltdizz]

I would suggest not chucking all your team's momentum overboard with an amateur hour trick play. Elite offenses don't relay on trickery to score.

I would also suggest utilizing the QB sneak from time to time. Ben is big and strong, but on 3 and 1 we tend to not trust him and the offensive line to pick up what should be a sure thing the vast majority of the time. I know people will say you don't want your starting QB hurt, but he can be hurt on any play and I can't remember the last time Tomlin pulled Ben during garbage time whether we were winning or getting blown out (which is reckless, but that is how this team rolls).

but how many times have we seen Ben struggle for that yard or not get it? I wonder what his stats are with QB sneaks.

seems like every QB sneak ends up being challenged.

[feltdizz]

Brady ran the QB sneak on more than one occasion, for what it's worth.

and he does it lot and always makes it because they time it well. I think Ben is too big to run it effectively.

I watched Cam try one up the gut on Sunday and sure enough, he didn't make it.

[WindyCitySteel]

We have a bad short yardage OL. Pouncey, DD, and Beachnut are nimble guys who can move, but they get handled in close quarters trying to drive block. They're not maulers.

Might help not taking real weapons off the field for Nix and Johnson, too.

Seriously, we have really dense coaches.

[K Train]

We have a bad short yardage OL. Pouncey, DD, and Beachnut are nimble guys who can move, but they get handled in close quarters trying to drive block. They're not maulers.

Might help not taking real weapons off the field for Nix and Johnson, too.

Seriously, we have really dense coaches.

Decastro was an absolute wrecking ball last week, fwiw

Brown has really turned into a great redzone threat, but its so hard to say "i thought the offense was elite but they are struggling in the redzone again" the redzone hasnt always been Bens strongest space but missing Bell and Bryant is HUGE for the RZ offense to be lacking.

[phillyesq]

We have a bad short yardage OL. Pouncey, DD, and Beachnut are nimble guys who can move, but they get handled in close quarters trying to drive block. They're not maulers.

Might help not taking real weapons off the field for Nix and Johnson, too.

Seriously, we have really dense coaches.

I hate the big backfield of Nix and Johnson. Deangelo is small, but I'd rather use him than hand off to a guy with 4 career carries at the goal line.

[Slapstick]

I hate the big backfield of Nix and Johnson. Deangelo is small, but I'd rather use him than hand off to a guy with 4 career carries at the goal line.

You can hate the big backfield, but they punched it in. When the OL jumped at the goal line, the big backfield came off the field when we moved back five yards. Hard to blame them for that, isn't it?

[feltdizz]

You can hate the big backfield, but they punched it in. When the OL jumped at the goal line, the big backfield came off the field when we moved back five yards. Hard to blame them for that, isn't it?

I don't know... I think we may see another year of awesome fantasy points but tons of FG's if we don't fix this RZ issue.

I know it's early but it would really pizz me off if we continue to kick FG's cause we can't figure out how to put our best weapons in a position to score inside the 5.

[papillon]

I don't know... I think we may see another year of awesome fantasy points but tons of FG's if we don't fix this RZ issue.

I know it's early but it would really pizz me off if we continue to kick FG's cause we can't figure out how to put our best weapons in a position to score inside the 5.

And miss them...

Pappy

[WindyCitySteel]

The Steelers seem to have two modes in short yardage - big fatty set, or empty set five wide.

In both cases, they telegraph the play coming.

When ever you tell the defense to expect run or pass, you make their job easier.

[papillon]

And, on the other hand, they are the most successful team in converting 2-point conversions. I think I saw that stat somewhere Thursday night. It's a conundrum that they're successful at 2-point conversions, but struggle in general in the RZ.

Pappy

[Slapstick]

2 pt conversions happen at the 2. Honestly, it seems that when our O is in the RZ but outside of the five that we have the most problems. 1st and 10 on the 18 is a nightmare scenario.

[papillon]

2 pt conversions happen at the 2. Honestly, it seems that when our O is in the RZ but outside of the five that we have the most problems. 1st and 10 on the 18 is a nightmare scenario.

Yea, they happen on the two yard line, but you only get one chance at it and they do very well at converting. 1st and goal from the 10 is the worst scenario for this team, IMO.

Pappy