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  • ter1230_4
    Backup
    • Feb 2010
    • 199

    #16
    Originally posted by Snatch98
    Should we have paid him nearly 6M for a two year deal? I don't think so personally.
    It was actually $5.5 million for two years, with $3 million guaranteed. Yeah, the Steelers were too smart to do that, they preferred to pay Cortez Allen $26 million for five years. And who would you prefer to have at this point, Allen or McCain? It is bad decisions like this which have lead to Antwon Blake and Will Allen being starters in our secondary.

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    • AzStillers1989
      Pro Bowler
      • Jul 2010
      • 1286

      #17
      Originally posted by ter1230_4
      It was actually $5.5 million for two years, with $3 million guaranteed. Yeah, the Steelers were too smart to do that, they preferred to pay Cortez Allen $26 million for five years. And who would you prefer to have at this point, Allen or McCain? It is bad decisions like this which have lead to Antwon Blake and Will Allen being starters in our secondary.
      Can't argue with this logic (not being sarcastic either).
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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #18
        Originally posted by Snatch98
        Should we have paid him nearly 6M for a two year deal? I don't think so personally.
        3 million a year for the best DB on your team? McCain would have been clearly that for us. How much are we paying Allen?
        Trolls are people too.

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #19
          Originally posted by ter1230_4
          It was actually $5.5 million for two years, with $3 million guaranteed. Yeah, the Steelers were too smart to do that, they preferred to pay Cortez Allen $26 million for five years. And who would you prefer to have at this point, Allen or McCain? It is bad decisions like this which have lead to Antwon Blake and Will Allen being starters in our secondary.
          Exactly../
          Trolls are people too.

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          • WindyCitySteel
            Legend
            • Nov 2011
            • 15684

            #20
            Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
            Their hope is that Cortez, whom they're also paying big money to, comes around. I hope so, too,
            Hope in one hand, crap in the other, see which fills up first...

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            • phillyesq
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 7568

              #21
              Originally posted by ter1230_4
              It was actually $5.5 million for two years, with $3 million guaranteed. Yeah, the Steelers were too smart to do that, they preferred to pay Cortez Allen $26 million for five years. And who would you prefer to have at this point, Allen or McCain? It is bad decisions like this which have lead to Antwon Blake and Will Allen being starters in our secondary.
              McCain vs. Allen, yes, I'd prefer McCain and his contract. The decision was really McCain vs. Blake, and Blake is a pretty comparable player for half the price. The thing they have in common is that neither should be a starter - both are more #3/#4 type players.

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #22
                Originally posted by phillyesq
                McCain vs. Allen, yes, I'd prefer McCain and his contract. The decision was really McCain vs. Blake, and Blake is a pretty comparable player for half the price. The thing they have in common is that neither should be a starter - both are more #3/#4 type players.
                This. I would even go a step further and say that Blake was younger and a RFA...but, both seem to be #3 or #4 type players...I still hold out hope for Cortez...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • papillon
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 11340

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Slapstick
                  This. I would even go a step further and say that Blake was younger and a RFA...but, both seem to be #3 or #4 type players...I still hold out hope for Cortez...
                  Slappy, your will is strong my friend, your will is strong and I hope you're rewarded for that unwavering support of Allen, but I'm not feeling it.

                  Pappy
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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #24
                    Originally posted by papillon
                    Slappy, your will is strong my friend, your will is strong and I hope you're rewarded for that unwavering support of Allen, but I'm not feeling it.

                    Pappy
                    Let's not get crazy. I only said that I hold out hope. I'm not ordering a Cortez Allen jersey off of the site that always spams the board...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • ter1230_4
                      Backup
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 199

                      #25
                      Originally posted by phillyesq
                      McCain vs. Allen, yes, I'd prefer McCain and his contract. The decision was really McCain vs. Blake, and Blake is a pretty comparable player for half the price. The thing they have in common is that neither should be a starter - both are more #3/#4 type players.
                      I would prefer McCain over Allen BEFORE taking the contract differential into account. It is because of massive mistakes like the contract to Cortez Allen that we can't keep a better player at less than half the cost. And I hope you're right about Blake being almost as good as McCain, because at this point we're not going to be able to find a competent CB on the open market.

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #26
                        Originally posted by ter1230_4
                        It is because of massive mistakes like the contract to Cortez Allen that we can't keep a better player at less than half the cost.
                        What other massive mistakes do we have on our roster contract-wise? The guys who are getting paid big money are pretty much the ones that deserved to be paid (Ben, Antonio, Pouncey, Heath, Timmons, Heyward). We gave good money, but not huge money, to Cortez Allen, Marcus Gilbert, and Mike Mitchell...so far Gilbert has lived up to his end of the bargain, while the other two are still question marks. The total value of each of those deals looks big at first glance, but the guaranteed dollars made up roughly 20% of the total value of the deal, so if after this year the team decides to cut bait with Cortez and/or Mitchell, we won't need to swallow a massive Woodley-like dead money cap hit.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          #27
                          Outside of Woodley, there really have not been "massive" mistakes...
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • Eddie Spaghetti
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4123

                            #28
                            Mitchell looks like crap, overpaid

                            Cortez looks like crap, overpaid

                            I'm still not convinced heyward is worthy 10 million per

                            Maybe not massive mistakes, but certainly questionable decisions at this juncture

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                            • brazilsteel
                              Backup
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 182

                              #29
                              BTW, I believe Mitchell's contract was done to try him for 2 years and cut him if he doesn't pan out.
                              His base salary was 750k last year and remains the same this year. Next year it jumps to 5M.
                              If I spell a word incorrectly or make a grammar mistake, I apologize. English is not my native language.

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                              • NorthCoast
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 26636

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                                Mitchell looks like crap, overpaid

                                Cortez looks like crap, overpaid

                                I'm still not convinced heyward is worthy 10 million per

                                Maybe not massive mistakes, but certainly questionable decisions at this juncture
                                People were willing to be patient with Woodley taking half the season to warm up to game shape. Maybe they should give Heyward the same deference.

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