Keith Butler

[feltdizz]

Their defense was horrid against us. The only difference in defense was we missed 2 field goals and had a foot out of bounds on a touchdown. We should have dropped 30 somethin on them EASY. NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THEIR DEFENSE. They got run rover all night by an over the hill backup running back, and got mauled by a backup center, and made our bust of a backup receiver look like a legit star.

Their defense gave up 1 TD until garbage time and while DW ran wild he did nothing in the RZ. I saw a Pats D that bended all night but didn't break.

DW isn't over the hill... the guy was injured for 10 games last year and Carolina isn't that good at putting their offense in a position to put up points.

[feltdizz]

Well...yeah, pretty much that's what I expected all along. And I think the offense will be able to score 30 regularly come playoff time with Bell, Bryant, and Pouncey back. While the offense last night shot itself in the foot on numerous occasions, you could see the ability for the team to be able to move the ball at will much of the time even with those aforementioned limitations. I think as the season goes on, we'll gel further and be able to convert many of those drives into TD's rather than 40-something yard FG attempts.

sorry but until I see it I won't believe it. This O has all the tools to put up points but we do a great job of turning TD's into FG's.

it's been happening so much I think we need to admit Ben isn't that good in the RZ. Hell, part of the problem is Haley won't even let Ben throw the ball in the RZ.

[RuthlessBurgher]

while DW ran wild he did nothing in the RZ.

It doesn't help when DeAngelo, Antonio, and Wheaton come out and we go with 2 FB's, 2 TE's, and an extra OT down there. I'd much rather spread 'em out when we are in close than bunching everyone together and handing the ball to Will Johnson who hadn't been in any of the RB meetings for the last few seasons until this week.

[NJ-STEELER]

its so tight in the red zone, you need mismatches, like gronk is for the pats.

As good as AB is, we saw a couple times the defender draped all over him. if that happens to gronk, you can just throw it high and he'll have a good chance to come down with it. this is where we missed bryant last night as bell. no defense is afraid of deangelo or WJ running it in from the 5 yard line

[WindyCitySteel]

Well...yeah, pretty much that's what I expected all along. And I think the offense will be able to score 30 regularly come playoff time with Bell, Bryant, and Pouncey back. While the offense last night shot itself in the foot on numerous occasions, you could see the ability for the team to be able to move the ball at will much of the time even with those aforementioned limitations. I think as the season goes on, we'll gel further and be able to convert many of those drives into TD's rather than 40-something yard FG attempts.

Against this schedule? I'm not seeing it. By the end of the year, I'll be happy if they're around 25-27 PPG.

[RuthlessBurgher]

sorry but until I see it I won't believe it. This O has all the tools to put up points but we do a great job of turning TD's into FG's.

it's been happening so much I think we need to admit Ben isn't that good in the RZ. Hell, part of the problem is Haley won't even let Ben throw the ball in the RZ.

Ben would be much better in the red zone with 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR) than 23 personnel (2 RB, 3 TE, 0 WR).

They run these sets whenever they attempt a 2 point conversion from the 2 yard line and are successful, but for some reason when we get close in non-2-pt-attempt scenarios, they remove the athleticism and replace it with beef instead.

[papillon]

Ben would be much better in the red zone with 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR) than 23 personnel (2 RB, 3 TE, 0 WR).

They run these sets whenever they attempt a 2 point conversion from the 2 yard line and are successful, but for some reason when we get close in non-2-pt-attempt scenarios, they remove the athleticism and replace it with beef instead.

THIS! The two point conversion last night was ridiculously easy. And, when Bryant comes back it may get even easier, because Wheaton can run the slant and put Bryant on the same side to run the fade or back shoulder. The Steelers should go for two every time this year, I firmly believe that.

Pappy

[NJ-STEELER]

ben would be much better in the red zone with 11 personnel (1 rb, 1 te, 3 wr) than 23 personnel (2 rb, 3 te, 0 wr).

They run these sets whenever they attempt a 2 point conversion from the 2 yard line and are successful, but for some reason when we get close in non-2-pt-attempt scenarios, they remove the athleticism and replace it with beef instead.

must. Appease. Yinzers

[WindyCitySteel]

Ben would be much better in the red zone with 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR) than 23 personnel (2 RB, 3 TE, 0 WR).

They run these sets whenever they attempt a 2 point conversion from the 2 yard line and are successful, but for some reason when we get close in non-2-pt-attempt scenarios, they remove the athleticism and replace it with beef instead.

And this, even with Pouncey, is not an OL that can simply root people out of the hole and blow their way into the end zone. It makes no sense.

[WindyCitySteel]

must. Appease. Yinzers

Ha ha ha...it's almost like they feel they must adhere to this blue collar philosophy instead of doing what works. Why can't we get a 6'6" TE on a DB or LB down there?

[feltdizz]

Ha ha ha...it's almost like they feel they must adhere to this blue collar philosophy instead of doing what works. Why can't we get a 6'6" TE on a DB or LB down there?

surprised we didn't run the fade with Archer

[K Train]

Butler didnt call a good game, but coaches grow into positions just like players....it was a tall order to be honest.

Interesting stat: Keith Butler has never lost to the same QB twice in one season as a defensive coordinator

Brady is ****** if we see them in the playoffs

[ikestops85]

The one time we did pass Ben had a great fake but then threw it to the guy double covered when he had an open guy on the right side of the end zone. That really surprised me that Ben didn't even look that way. That's Ben ... often he has me SMH whether it be for good or bad.

[7upnext]

must. Appease. Yinzers

great. another one of these winners with the 'Yinzers' monikers. We haven't heard this one in weeks

[feltdizz]

The one time we did pass Ben had a great fake but then threw it to the guy double covered when he had an open guy on the right side of the end zone. That really surprised me that Ben didn't even look that way. That's Ben ... often he has me SMH whether it be for good or bad.

yeah, one thing about Ben is once he is locked in he refuses to check down. I would have loved to see a few dump offs to DW in the flat...

and once again, why is Dri Archer on the team if we never use him? If he played for the Pats he would have 8 touches in the flat while wide open.

Just seems like our coaches aren't good at creating mismatches or taking advantage of a teams weakness.